I’m still loooking for intelligent life on this planet!
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#42So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.
Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.
Trying not to be negative, but statements like this completely disregard the degree of thought and evidence that needs to be accounted for to make a reasonable statement that isn't just pulling an ungrounded opinion out of the air. I mean why exactly is it doubtful? It doesn't seem doubtful to many other very intelligent people, so perhaps you should back it up with a bit of reasoning or evidence.
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#43Fun to imagine someone or something out there mapping us as well. What a cool video. I think one of the best things about space travel will be the loss of ego we go through when we really understand how vast the world is.
That was said when we first orbited the Earth. Right now many things - space travel in particular - seems correlated with vastly increased ego.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is. It's called dwell-time
You might be staying there a long time because you're fuming, so: nope.
You are of course right that there are lots of potential motivations for spending extra time on the page. But it will likely be interpreted as enjoyment in the absence of other feedback mechanisms.
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#46600x zoom didn't seem to help from the 150x zoom. Wonder if we will ever be able to see actual planet surfaces or we need some other technology to do that, i.e, we should have small satellites every 10 light years. but this map is amazing and a good step forward. Edit: Was just thinking that image does us tells us something i.e, there no large artificial structures or billboards anywhere we can see. Maybe I watch too…
There is zero way to optically resolve an exoplanet’s surface without something like a gravitational lens.
Can't we build a giant optical interferometer in space by sending multiple telescopes out there?
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#47We still have a long way to go to beat this draw distance, but we are on our way. The day will come when we have "sentient" beings, living in a massive world created by us. And they will ponder the same things as we do now. And we will remain invisible and out of reach, but completely observant, and influential in their world. After all, we wrote the program. And they will study the code and discover their own "natur…
What benefit do you get from this line of thought? You could also be a brain in a jar. What would you change about your life or behavior?
But I'm not a brain in a jar. That is not my experience.
The benefit I get is knowing that this is not all one "big bang"
We are so quick to laud our own achievements, but fail to give credit where it is due.
We build nuclear power plants, waste water treatment plants and the beginnings of quantum computers. And we congratulate ourselves for a job well done, after spending an unspeakable amount of resources on them. We maintain them with a constant labour force, regular maintenance shutdowns and a ton of money.
Meanwhile the sun keeps shining, the clouds keep raining and your mind keeps minding.
And they do it on zero budget. No off days. No staff. Automatically.
And with all this engagement, the energy remains the same.
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#48So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.
Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.
> Something that has thinking capabilities?
Something that involves "thinking capabilities" in a form we would recognise?
That's always what I consider when someone mentions the Fermi Paradox.
Humans tend to barely recognise "thinking capabilities" in other mammals. There is intriguing evidence that plants "communicate" and "remember", and have been doing so around us for at least as long as mammals have existed with humans barely noticing and usually ignoring or criticising researchers who suggest that perhaps plants may be "thinking".
https://www.botanicalmind.online/podcasts/plant-sentience-a-...
If we don't even recognise "thinking capabilities" in the plants that have been around us for as long as we've been around as a species, what're the chances that we would notice and recognise "conclusive evidence of advanced extraterrestrial life" when we saw it?
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#49Very impressive collage of images! Just one doubt - what are the pitch black patches?
Aliens, but it's classified, so they redacted those parts.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's Earth. There is no model to say that life always goes on that way. We just have no clue.
"Astronomer Frank Drake created a formula to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations in the Milky Way. Adam Frank and Woodruff Sullivan modified the equation to calculate the odds that Earth was the first intelligent life in the universe. They concluded that the odds of Earth being the first are less than one in 10 billion trillion, which suggests that other intelligent species have likely evolved." 1 i…
That 600 times zoom-in on 1% of the eventual survey of 1/3rd of the non milky way sky... Shows a couple of galaxies, which if the milky way is "typical" represent a couple of billion stars.
Suddenly 1 in 10 billion trillion odds doesn't seem so (and I apologise in advance for this) astronomical...