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Re: First images from Euclid are in

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600x zoom didn't seem to help from the 150x zoom. Wonder if we will ever be able to see actual planet surfaces or we need some other technology to do that, i.e, we should have small satellites every 10 light years. but this map is amazing and a good step forward.

Edit: Was just thinking that image does us tells us something i.e, there no large artificial structures or billboards anywhere we can see. Maybe I watch too much sci-fi but honestly would have expected someone to build some huge structure around a star or planet, would be disappointing if no one does.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.

Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.

One proof is that we are thinking, and so are dogs, cats and monkeys to a lesser extent.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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600x zoom didn't seem to help from the 150x zoom. Wonder if we will ever be able to see actual planet surfaces or we need some other technology to do that, i.e, we should have small satellites every 10 light years. but this map is amazing and a good step forward. Edit: Was just thinking that image does us tells us something i.e, there no large artificial structures or billboards anywhere we can see. Maybe I watch too…

There is zero way to optically resolve an exoplanet’s surface without something like a gravitational lens.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.

One proof is that we are thinking, and so are dogs, cats and monkeys to a lesser extent.

That's Earth. There is no model to say that life always goes on that way. We just have no clue.

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So many solar systems out there, life evolved in many planets for sure. No proof but no doubt.

Life? Probably. Something that has thinking capabilities? Much more doubtful.

I see no reason to doubt.

I think at the scale of the universe life even thinking capabilities life is almost certainly inevitable.

What's not inevitable is that it can thrive, and survive to a galactic scale. That's not even yet certain for us.

Universe is too big, we're all too far apart. Civilizations come, civilizations go. Some may not be on a planet where even rocket travel may be possible - no source of energy dense enough. Some can get wiped out by disasters. Asteroids. It's happened on this planet a bunch of times.

It's like the Birthday paradox. It's likely 2 people have the same birthday. It's not likely that someone else has YOUR birthday.

Re: First images from Euclid are in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One proof is that we are thinking, and so are dogs, cats and monkeys to a lesser extent.

That's Earth. There is no model to say that life always goes on that way. We just have no clue.

"Astronomer Frank Drake created a formula to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations in the Milky Way. Adam Frank and Woodruff Sullivan modified the equation to calculate the odds that Earth was the first intelligent life in the universe. They concluded that the odds of Earth being the first are less than one in 10 billion trillion, which suggests that other intelligent species have likely evolved."

1 in 10 billion trillion is some pretty serious odds.

It does get more complicated if we factor in life happening quickly enough without an extinction event.

But after looking at images like this there is just NO WAY we are the only ones.

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