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Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

noduerme wrote: post #31
JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #12

What the US is doing to Cuba is nothing sort of criminal. It's been 60 years since the bay of Pigs and Cuban Crisis, it's time to end the embargo. One thing that I was hopeful in the Biden v. Trump 2024 was that whoever won wouldn't have felt the need to win Florida anymore in their lifetime and so they could have gone for the legacy of ending the embargo on Cuba during their Presidency. Instead now with Harris of co…

Sorry, but why is it criminal? I wish the US and Europe would embargo every regime that jails its political adversaries.

China ring a bell? Russia until the invasion of Ukraine ring a bell? Saudi Arabia and GCC countries where this happens every 10 years or so (publicly and/or silently)

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

proc0 wrote: post #16
legitster wrote: post #8

Cuban GDP is actually the highest it's every been, thanks to the opening up of the tourism industry in the early 2000s and the introduction of direct foreign investment in 2018. This isn't a money or embargo issue or even (directly) a communism issue. The current regime is simply incompetent: They don't have any expertise and refused to cooperate with other countries on developing their infrastructure. Venezuela's ec…

The reason why communism is always destined to fail is because it cannot process large amounts of information from the market. It's like a single core CPU trying to run a large operating system with millions of processes and services. There has to be a decentralized system for markets to grow to the scale of a first world economy, it's the only way to handle that much information and as a consequence growth.

Some people seemed to have some ideas/visions about that, but failed to implement them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

Maybe some other people wanted them to fail, considering the time and place, and what else happened there in around that timeframe.

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by Arnt »

Scoundreller wrote: post #13
Arnt wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikipedia tells all: Canada, the US, Italy, Germany, Russia, France and the UK are the top sources of tourists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Cuba

As of 2018

What does this mean? AFAICT, it's either a minor detail, hardly worth mentioning, or it implies that there have been notable changes since then. If you did intend to imply that, could you elaborate?

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by victorbojica »

yongjik wrote: post #36
victorbojica wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd call that luck. Wait until a bad or stupid actor gets to power. This is the main problem with communism. It all depends on one single person and how they are.

I'll grant that communism makes it easy for a single person to have all the power, but "one single person in power can ruin everything" is not exactly unique to communism, and I am unconvinced that it explains why communist nations tend to stay poor.

Happens everywhere, but the way power in communism works makes bad stuff happen many times faster. In democracy there is a long time until a bad actor can do real damage. There are policies and various mechanisms that prevent that(to a point). Even bureaucracy works to some extent.

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by noduerme »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #41
noduerme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but why is it criminal? I wish the US and Europe would embargo every regime that jails its political adversaries.

China ring a bell? Russia until the invasion of Ukraine ring a bell? Saudi Arabia and GCC countries where this happens every 10 years or so (publicly and/or silently)

What part of my comment didn't you understand? Yes, all of them. We shouldn't do business with human rights violators. Full stop.

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

noduerme wrote: post #45
JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China ring a bell? Russia until the invasion of Ukraine ring a bell? Saudi Arabia and GCC countries where this happens every 10 years or so (publicly and/or silently)

What part of my comment didn't you understand? Yes, all of them. We shouldn't do business with human rights violators. Full stop.

Yes but among those the least dangerous and the ones whose interests are more aligned with the US is Cuba.

Geography is still king, US, Mexico,Canada and the Caribbean , some would say all the way to Cape Horn in Patagonia all share the same interests.

Hillary would always repeat this thing about safety in America, meaning the whole continent .

If you wanted to bring back manufacturing jobs you'd start from India and China and leave Mexico as the last

Re: Cuba's power grid fails, plunging country into darkness

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Post by justinko »

ein0p wrote: post #39
justinko wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s only one direct flight and that’s from Miami with American Airlines. You have a lot of research to do if you think the problem is the embargo.

Wasn’t aware there’s now a direct flight from Miami. I went there through Canada back in the day.

Actually there is also direct from Houston via United Airlines.
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