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Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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I heard the movie business started there to get out of reach of enforcement of movie camera patents back east. If true that’s pretty ironic since the whole industry is built on IP rights.

Interesting, I always heard it was started by Jews looking to get away from racism back east.

I might have to do a little reading myself to clear this up

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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I heard the movie business started there to get out of reach of enforcement of movie camera patents back east. If true that’s pretty ironic since the whole industry is built on IP rights.

Like many victims of bullying, they learned the wrong lesson: that it's better to be on the other side of the bullying.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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I heard the movie business started there to get out of reach of enforcement of movie camera patents back east. If true that’s pretty ironic since the whole industry is built on IP rights.

And in part because of the diversity of landscapes to film in. Westerns and such were never going to be filmed in the east.

And then the TMZ came into limit those landscapes. For good reason though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_zone

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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And in part because of the diversity of landscapes to film in. Westerns and such were never going to be filmed in the east.

And then the TMZ came into limit those landscapes. For good reason though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_zone

The weather and diverse geography played a role too. Many sunny days needed for filming.. Locations not far from L.A. that can represent many different climates and landscapes in film.

There are tons of reasons why it was all built. Many explain why other places are starting to compete more with Hollywood. Even the Disney style Unreal Engine scenery is a threat to advantages Hollywood had.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Those who come next

If you can believe it, there are people that don’t give a shit what happens to the world after their kids die.

I was referring to whatever intelligence evolves after this fifth great mass extinction event finishes.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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I heard the movie business started there to get out of reach of enforcement of movie camera patents back east. If true that’s pretty ironic since the whole industry is built on IP rights.

Interesting, I always heard it was started by Jews looking to get away from racism back east. I might have to do a little reading myself to clear this up

Here’s some info https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drov...

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Unless I'm missing something this is the instantaneous generation, ie it needs to be averaged over 24hr (actually over the year) to get a real picture of CA's energy mix. (Also, I wouldn't put hydro in the clean energy in CA)

It's a bit misleading to say Hydro doesn't tackle climate change, though it is environmentally unfriendly. One particular political party loves to make jokes about "clean" energy, by conflating different definitions of clean. Generally, I think it's fair to say climate change is the biggest concern, so I am comfortable when "clean" or "green" refers to CO2 free.

My concern with California hydro is the water wastage. Nothing excuses the amount of water California wastes.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Are you sure? This link from 2021 says the net power consumed in CA was less than 34% renewables, and the in-state generated renewables are about the same. https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo... EDIT: pedantic physics moment. When I say "power" consumed I actually mean the time integral of power over the course of a year, i.e. energy, expressed as GWh

I wrote "at this moment", which meant instantaneously, not overall, or for 2021 as there has been very fast buildout. Data can be found here: https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply It has gone up a couple of points since I posted.

Missed that in your comment, sorry.

That being said I find the avg to be the only interesting metric (unless you build power lines)

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Many/most of Raymond Chandler’s works are set in the time period when LA was gradually shifting from oil to film as its predominant industry. I believe oil executives were in a few of the stories as villains too. Great reads if you’re interested in the era.

Absolutely. Chandler was in fact employed by an oil company before he tapped a richer vein (sorry) with his fiction. Incidentally, while re-reading Chandler's "The Lady in the Lake," I realized that the scene in which Marlowe meets his employer, dozing off in a "high-backed chair" in his club's library, was a description of the library at the Los Angeles Athletic Club. Today, if you're a member (or know one), you can…

Ah you’re right, I’ve read a few biographies of Chandler but somehow totally forgot he worked for an oil company. IIRC it was a job he got through his father in law.

Great trivia about the club - will definitely have to visit that if I make it to LA again.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Many/most of Raymond Chandler’s works are set in the time period when LA was gradually shifting from oil to film as its predominant industry. I believe oil executives were in a few of the stories as villains too. Great reads if you’re interested in the era.

There was a Rockford Files episode where he distracted a crooked businessman in LA by buying the mineral rights under his house and sending a drilling crew to his front yard.
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