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Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Without humans, who cares about the world? Serious question.

Those who come next

If you can believe it, there are people that don’t give a shit what happens to the world after their kids die.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He doesn't say he's unaware of the history, he says that despite the visible infrastructure he didn't realise it was still an oil town: > But before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town. And though the oil wells that loom even today atop the nearby Baldwin Hills should have been a clue, it never really dawned on me that LA still is

I have lived in LA my whole life and it pushes my suspension of disbelief a lot to hear a native say they didn’t realize that oil was still being extracted - the derricks are everywhere, not just on-shore either.

Right? It’s like where do people think Doheny (Greystone Mansion) and Getty got all their money?

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Huntington Beach located in Orange County, south of Los Angeles used to have oil wash up on the beach due to it seeping from the ocean bottoms. Signal Hill located near Long Beach California used to be completely covered with oil pumping rigs. Even in Long Beach close to PCH and 2nd street there are still active oil wells.

Long beach also has those oil well islands.

https://la.curbed.com/2018/9/28/17858248/history-long-beach-...

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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> but that was over 20 years ago. We’ve made scant progress. Ugh. At this moment, 74.2% of California’s electricity is coming from renewables, overwhelmingly solar. Nearly 8% of new cars sold in the US are electric, a similar number of total cars on the road are electric. In ten years it will be nearly 100%.

Are you sure?

This link from 2021 says the net power consumed in CA was less than 34% renewables, and the in-state generated renewables are about the same.

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo...

EDIT: pedantic physics moment. When I say "power" consumed I actually mean the time integral of power over the course of a year, i.e. energy, expressed as GWh

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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> but that was over 20 years ago. We’ve made scant progress. Ugh. At this moment, 74.2% of California’s electricity is coming from renewables, overwhelmingly solar. Nearly 8% of new cars sold in the US are electric, a similar number of total cars on the road are electric. In ten years it will be nearly 100%.

> At this moment, 74.2% of California’s electricity is coming from renewables, overwhelmingly solar. It's even better than that! The rest is mostly nuclear and hydro so at this moment only 12% of California's power supply produces significant amounts of CO2 [1]. [1] https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

Unless I'm missing something this is the instantaneous generation, ie it needs to be averaged over 24hr (actually over the year) to get a real picture of CA's energy mix.

(Also, I wouldn't put hydro in the clean energy in CA)

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At this moment, 74.2% of California’s electricity is coming from renewables, overwhelmingly solar. It's even better than that! The rest is mostly nuclear and hydro so at this moment only 12% of California's power supply produces significant amounts of CO2 [1]. [1] https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

Unless I'm missing something this is the instantaneous generation, ie it needs to be averaged over 24hr (actually over the year) to get a real picture of CA's energy mix. (Also, I wouldn't put hydro in the clean energy in CA)

It's a bit misleading to say Hydro doesn't tackle climate change, though it is environmentally unfriendly.

One particular political party loves to make jokes about "clean" energy, by conflating different definitions of clean. Generally, I think it's fair to say climate change is the biggest concern, so I am comfortable when "clean" or "green" refers to CO2 free.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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> but that was over 20 years ago. We’ve made scant progress. Ugh. At this moment, 74.2% of California’s electricity is coming from renewables, overwhelmingly solar. Nearly 8% of new cars sold in the US are electric, a similar number of total cars on the road are electric. In ten years it will be nearly 100%.

Are you sure? This link from 2021 says the net power consumed in CA was less than 34% renewables, and the in-state generated renewables are about the same. https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo... EDIT: pedantic physics moment. When I say "power" consumed I actually mean the time integral of power over the course of a year, i.e. energy, expressed as GWh

I wrote "at this moment", which meant instantaneously, not overall, or for 2021 as there has been very fast buildout.

Data can be found here: https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply

It has gone up a couple of points since I posted.

Re: Before LA became Tinseltown, it was an oil town

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I heard the movie business started there to get out of reach of enforcement of movie camera patents back east. If true that’s pretty ironic since the whole industry is built on IP rights.

Win by any means necessary and then lock it down to prevent upstarts and competition. A time tested strategy
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