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Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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racional wrote: post #39
protomolecule wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great, I'm glad you think that. Next time please just pass by.

Perhaps you should consider doing the same, at moments when all you can think of offering in response to an evident Russian war crime (demolishing memorials on territory is illegally occupying ) is to cite the completely non-analogous situation of the Ukrainians demolishing memorials (for whatever reason) on their own territory . It's just such an obviously insipid and vacuous comparison. It's difficult to see why yo…

"for whatever reason"

I love how you are skirting the topic of the ideology of post-2014 Ukraine.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#42

Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #41
racional wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you should consider doing the same, at moments when all you can think of offering in response to an evident Russian war crime (demolishing memorials on territory is illegally occupying ) is to cite the completely non-analogous situation of the Ukrainians demolishing memorials (for whatever reason) on their own territory . It's just such an obviously insipid and vacuous comparison. It's difficult to see why yo…

"for whatever reason" I love how you are skirting the topic of the ideology of post-2014 Ukraine.

And rightly so -- as far as the current conflict is concerned, it's a red herring.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#43

Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #42
protomolecule wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"for whatever reason" I love how you are skirting the topic of the ideology of post-2014 Ukraine.

And rightly so -- as far as the current conflict is concerned, it's a red herring.

And yet you instead of honestly saying 'yes, post-2014 Ukraine glorifies Nazi collaborators, but it doesn't matter to me' go to the great lengths to deny it or weasel around.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #43
racional wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And rightly so -- as far as the current conflict is concerned, it's a red herring.

And yet you instead of honestly saying 'yes, post-2014 Ukraine glorifies Nazi collaborators, but it doesn't matter to me' go to the great lengths to deny it or weasel around.

Certain people in Ukraine valorize and whitewash that history.

But "Ukraine" as a country does not. And none of this stupidity is any way relevant to the current (very much Nazi-like) invasion by Russia that you are continually apologizing for. Whose true causes you know perfectly well, and are continually attempting to distract attention away from with finger-pointing tactics such as these.

That is the cardinal error you are making here.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#45

Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #44
protomolecule wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet you instead of honestly saying 'yes, post-2014 Ukraine glorifies Nazi collaborators, but it doesn't matter to me' go to the great lengths to deny it or weasel around.

Certain people in Ukraine valorize and whitewash that history. But "Ukraine" as a country does not. And none of this stupidity is any way relevant to the current (very much Nazi-like) invasion by Russia that you are continually apologizing for. Whose true causes you know perfectly well, and are continually attempting to distract attention away from with finger-pointing tactics such as these. That is the cardinal erro…

"Certain people "

See, you are at it again.

These certain people include Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, as you could see in the comment you couldn't pass by but clearly hadn't bothered to read.

Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN. This includes Stepan Bandera Avenue in the center of the Ukrainian capital [0].

[0] https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вулиця_Степана_Бандери

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #45
racional wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certain people in Ukraine valorize and whitewash that history. But "Ukraine" as a country does not. And none of this stupidity is any way relevant to the current (very much Nazi-like) invasion by Russia that you are continually apologizing for. Whose true causes you know perfectly well, and are continually attempting to distract attention away from with finger-pointing tactics such as these. That is the cardinal erro…

"Certain people " See, you are at it again. These certain people include Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, as you could see in the comment you couldn't pass by but clearly hadn't bothered to read. Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN. This includes Stepan Bandera Avenue in the center of the Ukrainian capital [0]. [0] https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вулиця_Степана_Бандери

Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN.

Then try writing letters to them, perhaps? I'm sure they'll be happy to hear from you.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#47

Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #46
protomolecule wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Certain people " See, you are at it again. These certain people include Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, as you could see in the comment you couldn't pass by but clearly hadn't bothered to read. Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN. This includes Stepan Bandera Avenue in the center of the Ukrainian capital [0]. [0] https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Вулиця_Степана_Бандери

Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN. Then try writing letters to them, perhaps? I'm sure they'll be happy to hear from you.

And even more fudging -- ignoring the point about Ukrainian Foreign Ministry aggressively defending glorification of Nazi collaborators and making an attempt to joke instead of addressing the fact that many Ukrainian mayors, both local and in the capital, support (or cannot resist when facing more powerful force) renaming streets after Nazi collaborators.

It's comical to see how your russophobia doesn't allow you to acknowledge objective reality.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by [deleted] »

protomolecule wrote: post #47
racional wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also the mayors of Ukrainian cities who approve naming streets after "heroes" of OUN. Then try writing letters to them, perhaps? I'm sure they'll be happy to hear from you.

And even more fudging -- ignoring the point about Ukrainian Foreign Ministry aggressively defending glorification of Nazi collaborators and making an attempt to joke instead of addressing the fact that many Ukrainian mayors, both local and in the capital, support (or cannot resist when facing more powerful force) renaming streets after Nazi collaborators. It's comical to see how your russophobia doesn't allow you to…

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