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Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #28
protomolecule wrote: post #27

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Which part are you disputing? The idea that any of these stupid monuments have anything to do with the actual reasons the 2014/2022 invasions were launched. Or that Putin actually cares about Nazis. Or that you actually care. Or that any of this stuff has any relevance as a topic, next to the reality of the current war itself. It's all just dumb propaganda.

> about Nazis. Or that you actually care.

Oh, I do care a lot. My grandmother survived the blockade of Leningrad, and another relative survived in a Nazi concentration camp.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #31
racional wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which part are you disputing? The idea that any of these stupid monuments have anything to do with the actual reasons the 2014/2022 invasions were launched. Or that Putin actually cares about Nazis. Or that you actually care. Or that any of this stuff has any relevance as a topic, next to the reality of the current war itself. It's all just dumb propaganda.

> about Nazis. Or that you actually care. Oh, I do care a lot. My grandmother survived the blockade of Leningrad, and another relative survived in a Nazi concentration camp.

I don't think you rationally believe that this history has any substantive relevance to the current conflict.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #30
racional wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(to the tg channel of Ukrainian politician, who is in exile in Spain and has survived an assassination attempt). About that "politician", Andrij Shariy whom you are citing as some kind of a credible figure, if not a martyr of sorts -- from WP: In a 2010 article, "Blue Rust. Dictatorship of Sodomites"[4] Shariy expressed an opinion that due to death sentences for same-sex and adultery relationships in Iran after the I…

You bothered to go to wikipedia to discredit the messenger when you couldn't disprove the fact that monuments to fallen Soviet soldiers are destroyed in Ukraine, but chose to stop citing wiki too soon. Doesn't seem honest to me. Here is the next paragraph you ignored: In 2021 Shariy apologized "for his past from 11 years ago" and claimed his views had been changed since then.[84] "And about gays. I am a simple guy fr…

The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier.

What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information.

You couldn't disprove the fact that ...

I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not relevant to the current situation.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #33
protomolecule wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You bothered to go to wikipedia to discredit the messenger when you couldn't disprove the fact that monuments to fallen Soviet soldiers are destroyed in Ukraine, but chose to stop citing wiki too soon. Doesn't seem honest to me. Here is the next paragraph you ignored: In 2021 Shariy apologized "for his past from 11 years ago" and claimed his views had been changed since then.[84] "And about gays. I am a simple guy fr…

The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier. What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information. You couldn't disprove the fact that ... I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not…

>it's simply not relevant to the current situation

Just like your comments to this thread.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #32
protomolecule wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> about Nazis. Or that you actually care. Oh, I do care a lot. My grandmother survived the blockade of Leningrad, and another relative survived in a Nazi concentration camp.

I don't think you rationally believe that this history has any substantive relevance to the current conflict.

And I think your irrational russophobia has no relevance to the current conflict.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#36

Post by [deleted] »

protomolecule wrote: post #34
racional wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier. What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information. You couldn't disprove the fact that ... I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not…

>it's simply not relevant to the current situation Just like your comments to this thread.

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Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#37

Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #34
racional wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy's an idiot, and a loose cannon. It doesn't matter how much he "evolved" or changed his tune once he started facing the natural consequences for whatever he shitposted earlier. What matters here is that you seem to happy to hold him up a credible, interesting useful and inspiring source of information. You couldn't disprove the fact that ... I don't dispute any of it. There's no need to because it's simply not…

>it's simply not relevant to the current situation Just like your comments to this thread.

Well, of course.

It was yet another "Bandera, Bandera" thread.

So nothing emerging from it would have relevance to anything.

As you knew when you started it.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by protomolecule »

racional wrote: post #37
protomolecule wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's simply not relevant to the current situation Just like your comments to this thread.

Well, of course. It was yet another "Bandera, Bandera" thread. So nothing emerging from it would have relevance to anything. As you knew when you started it.

Great, I'm glad you think that. Next time please just pass by.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

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Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #38
racional wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, of course. It was yet another "Bandera, Bandera" thread. So nothing emerging from it would have relevance to anything. As you knew when you started it.

Great, I'm glad you think that. Next time please just pass by.

Perhaps you should consider doing the same, at moments when all you can think of offering in response to an evident Russian war crime (demolishing memorials on territory is illegally occupying) is to cite the completely non-analogous situation of the Ukrainians demolishing memorials (for whatever reason) on their own territory.

It's just such an obviously insipid and vacuous comparison. It's difficult to see why you went down this track, other than as an excuse to thrown down more of your favorite scare imagery and talking points.

Re: Russia's stocks of Soviet-era weaponry are running out

#40

Post by racional »

protomolecule wrote: post #35
racional wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you rationally believe that this history has any substantive relevance to the current conflict.

And I think your irrational russophobia has no relevance to the current conflict.

As the set of my irrational russophobia is empty, the intersection of its relevance and the current conflict is also empty.
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