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Re: Lindroid

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Post by kotaKat »

igor47 wrote: post #28
kiney wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

As far as I also understand Google Messages now uses this as well to gatekeep access to carrier RCS.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/1/24087418/google-messages-b...

Re: Lindroid

#42

Post by crms1496 »

igor47 wrote: post #28
kiney wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

I have found Play Integrity Fix [1] with playcurl [2] is reliable enough for passing Play Integrity in Wallet and other apps. My current issue is that Google Messages has its own integrity checks that are stricter than Play Integrity, and will silently stop handling RCS messages if it fails those checks. I currently have RCS disabled because it is too unreliable.

[1] https://github.com/chiteroman/PlayIntegrityFix [2] https://github.com/daboynb/PlayIntegrityNEXT

Re: Lindroid

#43

Post by 4ggr0 »

fsflover wrote: post #37
roywashere wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but most people might need their phone to do banking apps or apps like WhatsApp, Spotify or Maps which are not available on your phone. This allows people to run GNU apps on their android phone so they can have both

You can do it with Waydroid (if your bank doesn't force you into the duopoly, at which point you should complain or switch). See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40714592

> at which point you should complain or switch

if only switching banks for such things was easy and realistically doable...

hate that banking apps are such a hassle to live with, but i do kinda get why they're very protective.

Re: Lindroid

#44

Post by fsflover »

4ggr0 wrote: post #43
fsflover wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do it with Waydroid (if your bank doesn't force you into the duopoly, at which point you should complain or switch). See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40714592

> at which point you should complain or switch if only switching banks for such things was easy and realistically doable... hate that banking apps are such a hassle to live with, but i do kinda get why they're very protective.

> i do kinda get why they're very protective.

I am not sure if a typical Android with a bunch of (preinstalled!) crappy apps is more secure than a GNU/Linux phone relying solely on FLOSS repos.

Changing banks can be easier or harder, depending on your country. People do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40678203

Re: Lindroid

#45

Post by ptero »

LorenDB wrote: post #4
Y_Y wrote: post #3

> full hw accelerated Linux on your Android as an app Might be worth adding that excerpt to the title, as well as changing the link to hggh's thread reader version without which I can't see anything.

Unfortunately I can't edit the title at this point. As for the link, HN wants posts to link to primary sources instead of alternative front ends (archive.today, Nitter, Thread Reader).

I think linking source is a general preference, not a hard rule. In this case (convenient full view vs clicking on chunks) it is easy to justify ignoring this preference.

Re: Lindroid

#46

Post by fsflover »

user070223 wrote: post #21

See also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones. Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device: 1. local first (you do go to the bathroom/gas station with your phone) 2. portable 3. reduce ewaste, money spent The lack of convenience in the form of larger screen might be mitigated using smart glasses, projector(unihertz tank 3 has built in), or just c…

> Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19328085

Re: Lindroid

#47

Post by linmob »

ga2mer wrote: post #26
fock wrote: post #19

"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

>you can just use postmarketOS Only if your device is fully supported I have about 5 "post market" devices and only two of them have any support in postmarketOS: Redmi 4x, in which hardware acceleration does not work and I have not been able to run any DE on it and Pixel 4a, in which judging by the pmOS wiki page works just about everything except the most important part of a modern phone - touchscreen

postmarketOS provides tooling, documentation and a helpful community ... at some point, you'll need to put in the work, or sell your used devices and buy other, better supported used devices to work around this.

Is it really unfortunate that there's no (known) mainline/close to mainline touchscreen driver for the Pixel 4a? Absolutely. But it won't magically appear without somebody putting in the necessary effort.

Re: Lindroid

#48

Post by sriacha »

anonzzzies wrote: post #16
figmert wrote: post #8

I'm currently in the process of trying to see if Samsung DeX is able to replace my laptop. It is running directly on Termux, as opposed to using something like proot. So far it seems promising, and the biggest thing issue I have is that the Termux-X11 session essentially acts like a VM in that shortcuts are not seemless. I'd love to know how this compares to that. Or maybe there's a way to make that more seemless. E.…

I work a lot in Dex and VNC via vr glasses and the shortcuts are the biggest issue. That’s why I want full Linux; I would like a phone size device without a screen running Linux with unlocked bootloader and usb vo (otherwise it’s still worthless), but, while trivial hardware wise (there are plenty of boards), this formfactor is not there it seems. And the slightly bigger ones that are there, are made for a reason (us…

Can you share which glasses and what kinds of environment you use with Dex? Termux?

Re: Lindroid

#49

Post by LoganDark »

crms1496 wrote: post #42
igor47 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

I have found Play Integrity Fix [1] with playcurl [2] is reliable enough for passing Play Integrity in Wallet and other apps. My current issue is that Google Messages has its own integrity checks that are stricter than Play Integrity, and will silently stop handling RCS messages if it fails those checks. I currently have RCS disabled because it is too unreliable. [1] https://github.com/chiteroman/PlayIntegrityFix [2]…

Huh, I don't have issues with RCS on my rooted OP7Pro. Is my version just sufficiently out of date not to have those extra checks?

Re: Lindroid

#50

Post by LoganDark »

igor47 wrote: post #28
kiney wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

> I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

(small nit: does "whom" even go there?)

They're protecting the TEE because they do not want third parties to be able to automate Google Pay through modified software. This isn't necessarily just about normal end users but more like smartphone farms.

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