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Re: Lindroid

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Post by user070223 »

See also @kdrag0n 's work; putting Virtualized linux (and windows) on Android phones.

Our phones might be our next Desktops/Laptops/main personal computing device: 1. local first (you do go to the bathroom/gas station with your phone) 2. portable 3. reduce ewaste, money spent

The lack of convenience in the form of larger screen might be mitigated using smart glasses, projector(unihertz tank 3 has built in), or just connect to an external monitor

Snapdragon 8 gen 3 performs like cpu from 2020 and midtier gpu from 2016 AVF might ship with android 15 as Mainline module (One need kernel 5.10+)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30322035 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30328692

Re: Lindroid

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Post by bboygravity »

fock wrote: post #19

"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

I have a rooted phone and when you hide root (using Magisk app) all banking apps work just fine?

Re: Lindroid

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Post by kiney »

bboygravity wrote: post #22
fock wrote: post #19

"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

I have a rooted phone and when you hide root (using Magisk app) all banking apps work just fine?

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Re: Lindroid

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Post by jacek »

I would love to try it out on my Android tablet. Being able to run Linux with a real desktop browser and development environment would be really amazing.

Re: Lindroid

#25

Post by Y_Y »

figmert wrote: post #8

I'm currently in the process of trying to see if Samsung DeX is able to replace my laptop. It is running directly on Termux, as opposed to using something like proot. So far it seems promising, and the biggest thing issue I have is that the Termux-X11 session essentially acts like a VM in that shortcuts are not seemless. I'd love to know how this compares to that. Or maybe there's a way to make that more seemless. E.…

Emacs-termux is awkward to get working initially, but it gives you more-or-less full emacs as an Android app, but sharing storage/namespace with termux so that they both have access to the same binaries and documents.

There isn't a good project page, it's based at this sourceforgw page and has a surprisingly comprehensive readme.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...

Re: Lindroid

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Post by ga2mer »

fock wrote: post #19

"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

>you can just use postmarketOS

Only if your device is fully supported

I have about 5 "post market" devices and only two of them have any support in postmarketOS: Redmi 4x, in which hardware acceleration does not work and I have not been able to run any DE on it and Pixel 4a, in which judging by the pmOS wiki page works just about everything except the most important part of a modern phone - touchscreen

Re: Lindroid

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Post by denysvitali »

zokier wrote: post #20

Neat project, but hate the branding. Android is Linux. I think it's really important to recognize that. Linux is not just not the one traditional POSIX style system, it's a platform to build all sorts of systems, including Android.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by igor47 »

kiney wrote: post #23
bboygravity wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a rooted phone and when you hide root (using Magisk app) all banking apps work just fine?

Some, not all. Last time I checked magisk wasn't able to fake safetynet hardwareattestation

Yup. I gave up on trying to get Google wallet / Android pay to work on my lineage device. I got it working sometimes but it broke after update and just wasn't reliable enough to keep trying when paying for stuff. I'm not really sure whom they're protecting with this stuff -- the credit card processing companies, maybe?

Re: Lindroid

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Post by pta2002 »

denysvitali wrote: post #27
zokier wrote: post #20

Neat project, but hate the branding. Android is Linux. I think it's really important to recognize that. Linux is not just not the one traditional POSIX style system, it's a platform to build all sorts of systems, including Android.

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modifi…

Ironically, in this specific instance (Android), it actually _isn't_ GNU/Linux. Distros like Alpine also aren't GNU/Linux.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by calgoo »

fock wrote: post #19

"needs root and patches to AOSP". So there go the banking apps mentioned elsewhere and you can just use postmarketOS. Still cool though!

As it’s Linux could we run android in a vm and simulate a safe device? That’s my hope for the future of mobile devices, safe VMs that we can run on top of the spyware (government enforced stuff too) infested phones.
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