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Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by xanderlewis »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #7

This seems trivially easy to circumvent. For example, take your 3/4 song that's 160 bpm and call it a 6/8 song that's 80 bpm. Done.

Yeah. In general, you can take any song at n npm and regard it (if you want to be slightly perverse) as being at n*2^m bpm where m is any integer. For example, dubstep is often regarded as being 140bpm (or thereabout), but a single bar is actually stretched out into two so that the two and four fall on the four and eight of a eight-beat phrase… which makes it more like 70bpm.

But I don’t think this kind of thing will get you off the hook in Chechnya.

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Post by Intralexical »

bee_rider wrote: post #6

> As the independent Russian news website Meduza notes, Russia’s national anthem—which is 76 beats per minute—falls outside the culture ministry’s range That seems like a bizarre oversight, I wonder how they’ll deal with it. I guess there will have to be some exception process.

If the ban were serious, I imagine that would be a problem if they had any intention of enforcing it consistently.

(As it is, the ban may be misrepresented. See the link posted by "ein0p".)

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by xanderlewis »

ZhadruOmjar wrote: post #25

Whatever new genre of music comes out of this will be lit. Can't wait to be dancing to "Chechen Low BPM DnB" in 20 years.

Maybe they’ll all be listening to the ‘… slowed+reverb’ stuff that seems to be popular now.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by dbcurtis »

AlbertCory wrote: post #24

Back to Bach, I say. Outlaw the flat 5th and flat 7th, too /s None of that American "Jazz Music" allowed here.

But.... outlawing flatted 7th means no more mixolydian mode, so Appalachian and Cajun fiddlers will want to have words with you...

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Post by IanCal »

rand846633 wrote: post #12

Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

I don't think it really targeted EDM. It just had to have some kind of differentiator in the law about what is a noise and what's music. And

> “music” includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats.

Is fairly reasonable.

It also seems the law mostly relates to being able to stop the rave and remove people rather than making it a criminal offence to do the thing.

> This section applies to a gathering on land in the open air of [F220] or more persons (whether or not trespassers) at which amplified music is played during the night (with or without intermissions) and is such as, by reason of its loudness and duration and the time at which it is played, is likely to cause serious distress to the inhabitants of the locality; and for this purpose—

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/part/V/crosshea...

Edit - I'm not diving into the depths of this so you are likely be very right in terms of what it's responding to, but I think its important in the framing about what lead to a law and the goal and what it actually says. A law against open air music festivals that cause "distress" may be bad in terms of freedom but it's not as stupid as banning a type of music.

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Post by IanCal »

jameshart wrote: post #22
rand846633 wrote: post #12

Sounds so outlandish, but then this comes to mind how the UK tried to ban raves: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Public_... > Sections 63, 64 & 65 of the Act targeted electronic dance music played at raves. The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act empowered police to stop a rave in the open air when "ten or more people are attending, or where two or more are making preparations for a rave". Sect…

And of course, the crucial legal definition of a rave as a place where the music consists of "sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats."

No, that's the definition of music not a subtype

> “music” includes sounds wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats.

edit - I should soften this. My understanding here is that it's trying to clarify the difference between some sounds and music. Is a person talking into a mic to a group of people covered by this? No. It's specifically about music. This seems like a very basic description of virtually all music to me.

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