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Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

#41

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

How do you do that for 110k kids?

Who builds the UI? Who manages accounts?

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

#42

My brain stopped in surprise after parsing the first half of that headline. "Oslo acquires ChatGPT.."?!

Norway has the funds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Nor...

Related but mostly in criticism of a dissimilar approach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_Heritage_Savings_Trust...

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

#44
Am I the only one left with a deep distrust of ChatGPT? It still lies ("hallucinates"), doesn't it? And no, I will not accept a rebuttal that says, "well everyone lies" because no, not everyone is as confidently wrong as ChatGPT. It's doesn't qualify statements with, "I was told..." or, "some believe..." or, "I'm not sure but it might be..." It just flat out lies. People are enthralled with this tech when they should still be very very skeptical.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the worst applications i could imagine it being used for is helping develop young peoples' world views As opposed to straight up government propaganda in textbooks? At least chatgpt averages out everyone’s propaganda. edit for clarity: this comment applies to history books, literature, stuff like that. If you look carefully you’ll notice they’re full of stuff designed to instill a sense of national identity…

You get an American-centric perspective, which is of course the correct one.

Well growing up I got a Slovenian-centric perspective. Except in elementary and middle school it was still a little Yugoslavian-centric because we hadn’t yet quite decided what we wanted to highlight. Very interesting transformation to observe in real time.

ChatGPT in general has been pretty decent about saying “Well different people describe this differently …”. Much better than any textbook I remember from school.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

#47

My brain stopped in surprise after parsing the first half of that headline. "Oslo acquires ChatGPT.."?!

I, for one, welcome our new Norwegian overlords.

btw it's called a garden-path sentence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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post #44

Am I the only one left with a deep distrust of ChatGPT? It still lies ("hallucinates"), doesn't it? And no, I will not accept a rebuttal that says, "well everyone lies" because no, not everyone is as confidently wrong as ChatGPT. It's doesn't qualify statements with, "I was told..." or, "some believe..." or, "I'm not sure but it might be..." It just flat out lies. People are enthralled with this tech when they should…

It does make mistakes, but it gets stuff right enough to be worth it. And if you catch it in a lie, you can just tell it and usually it will correct itself.

To me, it is like a junior developer. It does the bulk of the work and whenever there is an issue, you can tell it like in a code review to fix a particular piece. Look past the confidence level and focus on the work product.

Remember, it doesn’t need to always be accurate. It doesn’t need to be perfect. It just needs to outperform the alternative (passable job here) for the price paid (amazing value here).

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

#50

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

OpenAI has the GPUs, Oslo does not.

The Mistral cloud offers are perhaps a bit too young to have been considered. And perhaps a bit more risky too.

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