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And kill all pet cats.
I’m a cat owner but probably will never get another one. Definitely not if I move back to Australia.
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
So 2-1/2 acres plus roads, instead of 5 acres, and you address how long, which OP didn't mention, in no way disputing him. Not a basis for leading with "incredibly false."
Seriously, every hole results in an eventual dump, tank, yard, road, or some other dang thing and the net land wrecked per operation is five acres. https://maps.app.goo.gl/sKfYNokGcidWLGTQ7
Sheesh. That's insane.
My understanding is that East California is like that too. Not sure the status as of today and if this is still permitted or not? Look up some images from LA in the early oil boom - crazy.
Here's an example of them in Alberta (where I am familiar): https://maps.app.goo.gl/73x4uKZxWKbZkgD76
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It looks a lot less like "cognitive dissonance" and more like "bad faith arguments from fossil fuel industry-linked groups" when you dig a bit.
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/do-wind-turbines-kill-birds
> A 2012 study found that wind projects kill 0.269 birds per gigawatt-hour of electricity produced, compared to 5.18 birds killed per gigawatt-hour of electricity from fossil fuel projects.
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"Cool, where is his study published?" The answer you seek is in the second (short!) paragraph. > But a new analysis of American data, published in Environmental Science & Technology...
I don't know why they couldn't include it in the article, but it appears to be https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.3c03899
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And kill all pet cats.
If we continue sarcasm line.. this is sarcasm, yes? Then we should kill all cats globally. Billion of birds killed by cars even in places where cats native for thousends years.
> Billion of birds killed by cars even in places where cats native
You raise a good point. however unintentionally! :)
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"Cool, where is his study published?" The answer you seek is in the second (short!) paragraph. > But a new analysis of American data, published in Environmental Science & Technology...
Not that I have any problem with people seeking to advance the scientific method but one wonders from this commenter’s other posts whether this was a legitimate desire for truth or someone just looking to poke holes in the post…
> legitimate desire for truth or someone just looking to poke holes in the post
What is the difference?
Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#50> their blades can spin at well over 200km per hour. It is easy to imagine careless birds getting chopped to bits. Interesting use of the word 'friendlier'.
What does it means for a wind turbine to spin at 200km per hour? Serious question.