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Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
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Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#12What a weird comparison. Nobody is saying we should drill oil and gas instead of wind turbines.
I think some people are saying exactly that.
Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#13What a weird comparison. Nobody is saying we should drill oil and gas instead of wind turbines.
They absolutely are saying that.
https://theintercept.com/2021/12/08/oil-industry-wind-farm-p...
> The plan, which was approved in 2017, sanctioned a Danish company to build a 120-megawatt capacity wind energy project — enough to power 40,000 homes by placing turbines 26 nautical miles offshore. The letter warned that the project would “irreparably damage beach tourism, home values and the economy,” “lower rents generally,” and produce “no environmental benefit.” “In fact,” the letter claimed, “regional air quality would become worse because of them.”
> While the letter was signed by a local resident, it made little mention of its true author: the Caesar Rodney Institute, a libertarian think tank at the time funded by the oil industry. The subterfuge was intentional. In an interview with the State Policy Network, a group that coordinates best practices for oil-and-gas-backed and libertarian think tanks, the Caesar Rodney Institute said it produced the letter and had it signed by a local concerned beach homeowner to “establish rapport” with the target audience of local residents and merchants.
Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#14I want to believe, but this article is less than convincing without reading detail about the study’s methods. I didn’t see a link to the paper on my first read. When I decided to go back and get the author’s name, Economist’s paywall kicked in. If anybody can see the full article, it would be lovely if you put the name of the researcher in the comments so I can read the original paper.
It's easy to believe. The massive ecological destruction caused by the oil and gas industry is well documented. Whatever downsides there are to wind mills, pale in comparison to that.
Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#15What a weird comparison. Nobody is saying we should drill oil and gas instead of wind turbines.
Yet those opponents of the wind turbines want to have all the benefits of the modern society like medicine and transportation and that sweet electricity that enables the electromagnetic waves used for planet wide communication. It almost feels like they are shilling for oil and gas companies or for authoritarian regimes that receive their main income from oil and gas drilling.
Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
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And kill all pet cats.
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#18Link to the paper pprint https://ekatovich.github.io/files/Katovich_Birds_and_Energy_...
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Re: Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas drilling
#20I wish a proper study on this could get some real funding. The cited study is certainly better than nothing but it's based on a volunteer reported survey with significant response bias (eg. maybe the drop in bird sightings near oil and gas drilling is because people don't want to go birdwatching near an oil field).
You want a "proper study" instead of an annual time series, comparable for over a century, conducted by millions of individuals? What a goofy comment. This is gold-standard data. The paper even explains why this is superior to nerd bullshit like eBird.