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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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It's just a shame that the $100k that was raised for "RoundCube Next" ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/roundcube-next--2 ) back in 2015 produced exactly nothing ( https://github.com/roundcube-next ) with no explanation.

What a shame! There's some info on the Wikipedia page[0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundcube#Project_.22Roundcube...

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

I've had very good luck with Seafile

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

https://graphmetrix.com/trinpod

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I'm glad the post states that Roundcube will stay an independent product. Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud. I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.

The old product is ok yes. The company is awful, with their roundcube next scam though.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I always wondered why photographers held on to negatives/raw files for so long. How often does the need to return years later come up, and can that justify the cost of storing all that in a way that’s somewhat reliable? I’m not saying there aren’t valid reasons to do so, and throwing the pictures on a few externals drives isn’t terrible, but to do it “right” seems like it would be super expensive!

Oh, I'd throw them away in a blink, If I were not lazy: Almost after every shoot, people come back "remember that one photo, where I smiled at sth? I'm very sentimental about that, cause it's [some important thing to them]", which necessitates the need to hold on to every photo taken on the session. So no real deletes here, even if it came out technically wrong (blurry, blown out, etc.). Those requests lessen, but do…

You could also back up to something like AWS Glacier. The cheapest tier (access less than once a year) is $1/TB/month. Maybe if you kept thumbnails locally, you could push all the data up and only pull it as and when you needed it.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

I echo GPs thoughts. I use a VPS with syncthing. While that is also clunky, it works for my usecase while keeping multiple redundant copies across devices.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I hate nextcloud with a passion and I just hope they can govern a project like roundcube... used it for 20 years even through the whole roundcube next debacle. That said roundcube itself is not an oss project with a clean track record.

Nextcloud is the OSS equivalent of IBM and ticking boxes so it's easy for management to pull the trigger but every feature is just a half-assed buggy implementation. Gobbling up OSS funds and fucking up government projects that try to rely on it. It's a disgrace.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Nextcloud Mail won't be replaced by Roundcube! "Neither will Roundcube replace Nextcloud Mail or the other way around. ... Nextcloud Mail will evolve as it is, focused on being used naturally within Nextcloud."

Thanks for the reminder. I still expect Roundcube to become a well-maintained alternative for E-Mail clients within Nextcloud, right?

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Unfortunately, I can only second this. The absolute basic functionality, meaning file storage and access through a browser, works fine. However, as soon as it comes to integration with the various existing clients, things fall apart, and it's not even terribly complicated stuff. For instance, I used Nextcloud to automatically upload photos from my Android mobile, and this has been completely broken for over 2 months…

I had the requirement for the same basic functionality and switched to Syncthing several years ago. Haven't looked back: works all the time, every time, and it is much easier to maintain.

I use syncthing and nextcloud. Syncthing just as an easy way to drop things between phone and computer. The ~$5/mo Hetzner nextcloud instance for my Zotero backup, occasionally sharing/soliciting files from friends, and a few not so important backups (that I've been meaning to mirror to b2).

It's basically fine but I can imagine the more advanced features not working so well. It has been on my list for years to add recurring task support to nextcloud tasks but it's a pretty big effort since I'm quite unfamiliar with the stack and there is a decent refactoring needed before the feature can be added.

https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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I installed Nextcloud twice and faced early bugs quickly as well. I'm certainly not moving my 15tb of client photos to it anytime soon

Just use apace2, its davfs implementation, and davfs clients. Linux has davfs2, android has foldersync. Apache2 is super streamlined for this, and has done dav stuff for at least 16 years.

I was thinking of trying out using something low level... Maybe that? Does it support lazy selective syncing? Updating only ranges of files? Does it handle broken connections gracefully and recovers without data loss?
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