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Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by jchw »

jmnicolas wrote: post #25
youdontknowjuli wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really tried to make Nextcloud work for me but it was too much. I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon. Some bugs I encountered in a few hours of testing and trying to make it work. The Mac auto-update installs an incompatible version to my OS; the website offers only the new incompatible and an old version that also doesn’t work (OS can not scan the app). The solution is to find a suitable version from a h…

If Dropbox is all you need you might be satisfied with Syncthing. I have used it for a week now, it works well and I have the warm fuzzy feeling that nobody is using my data to make a few bucks (I'm self hosting it on a home server).

Not only that, you don't even need to "host" Syncthing. Being P2P in nature, it can just run on whatever computers you want to sync to, directly.

That's pretty cool.

The only thing I'd really want for Syncthing is some kind of simple interface for my desktops (all running SwayWM.) There's a GTK app that I use on my Pinephone, but it's a little janky. I mainly just want to be able to know that I'll get notifications when there's a conflict or error. (Dropbox style file emblems in file explorers, showing the state, would be nice, too...)

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by b112 »

eurekin wrote: post #17
youdontknowjuli wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really tried to make Nextcloud work for me but it was too much. I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon. Some bugs I encountered in a few hours of testing and trying to make it work. The Mac auto-update installs an incompatible version to my OS; the website offers only the new incompatible and an old version that also doesn’t work (OS can not scan the app). The solution is to find a suitable version from a h…

I installed Nextcloud twice and faced early bugs quickly as well. I'm certainly not moving my 15tb of client photos to it anytime soon

Just use apace2, its davfs implementation, and davfs clients.

Linux has davfs2, android has foldersync.

Apache2 is super streamlined for this, and has done dav stuff for at least 16 years.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by eurekin »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
op00to wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always wondered why photographers held on to negatives/raw files for so long. How often does the need to return years later come up, and can that justify the cost of storing all that in a way that’s somewhat reliable? I’m not saying there aren’t valid reasons to do so, and throwing the pictures on a few externals drives isn’t terrible, but to do it “right” seems like it would be super expensive!

Because better hardware gets cheaper, and one's technique and software improves over time. I was able to recover a 13 year old photo I took with a D70s which was extremely noisy. By using what I learnt and state of the art software (which is Darktable), I was able to extract a very nice photo out of it. Also, as your style improves and experience piles up, you look to your "bad" photos and say "Aha, there's a nice an…

I wonder how would you react to the DeepPRIME* from DxO

https://www.dxo.com/fr/technology/deepprime/

I have a license for some older version, if you want to throw a .nef at me

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by inox »

jmnicolas wrote: post #26
eurekin wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I installed Nextcloud twice and faced early bugs quickly as well. I'm certainly not moving my 15tb of client photos to it anytime soon

Have you tried Immich? I don't have much experience with it (installed yesterday evening) but it looks and run great.

I second immich - used it for some group sharing (non-registered users) and worked really smooth. had some random upload fails though on the app from iOS.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by bayindirh »

eurekin wrote: post #33
bayindirh wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because better hardware gets cheaper, and one's technique and software improves over time. I was able to recover a 13 year old photo I took with a D70s which was extremely noisy. By using what I learnt and state of the art software (which is Darktable), I was able to extract a very nice photo out of it. Also, as your style improves and experience piles up, you look to your "bad" photos and say "Aha, there's a nice an…

I wonder how would you react to the DeepPRIME* from DxO https://www.dxo.com/fr/technology/deepprime/ I have a license for some older version, if you want to throw a .nef at me

That looks pretty nice. I'll try to find some noisy files to send to you. What's nice about Darktable is it has a feature called "profiled denoise".

Contributors send in calibrated RAW files per camera, taken at every ISO setting possible, so Darktable denoises your file according to your camera's profile at particular ISO. The result is pretty impressive.

I have uploaded that particular image to [0]. Taken in 2006 and processed in 2020, after 14 years!

[0]: https://www.flickr.com/photos/zerocoder/53363865806/in/datep...

Edit: EXIF says 2005, but it should be 2006.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by willis936 »

youdontknowjuli wrote: post #14
preya2k wrote: post #6

I'm glad the post states that Roundcube will stay an independent product. Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud. I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.

I really tried to make Nextcloud work for me but it was too much. I‘ll pay the enshittified Dropbox premium soon. Some bugs I encountered in a few hours of testing and trying to make it work. The Mac auto-update installs an incompatible version to my OS; the website offers only the new incompatible and an old version that also doesn’t work (OS can not scan the app). The solution is to find a suitable version from a h…

I run it on TrueNAS Scale. Yes it is all quite fragile, but I managed to get it in a state where it works if I don't touch it. It's all backed on a ZFS volume. Barring significant hardware failures I will be able to access my data locally. I use Storj for mirror remote. Rebuilding would be a bit of a pain, but I have reached the E2EE personal cloud ideal. If [better than storj] cloud storage services offered BYOPK E2EE then I wouldn't need to jump through such hurdles.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by phpisthebest »

preya2k wrote: post #6

I'm glad the post states that Roundcube will stay an independent product. Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud. I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.

12-18mos before that changes.

no company in the world is going to maintain 2 separate software products that compete with each other. They will be merged, my prediction is 12 to 18 mos

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by manmal »

creshal wrote: post #36

Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

Do you have recommendations for a self hosted webDAV server that could act as a Dropbox / GDrive replacement? I‘m using Nextcloud only for that use case because I haven’t found anything that seemed as stable.

Re: Roundcube open-source webmail software merges with Nextcloud

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Post by T3RMINATED »

creshal wrote: post #36

Given Nextcloud's track record that doesn't bode well for Roundcube's future. We tried to make Nextcloud work for us for years, but it's just too terribly clunky, unstable, bug-ridden, and customer hostile. I hope none of that rubs off on roundcube.

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