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America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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USA really is a hellscape. The more I learn about the world, the happier I am, I'm not born there but in Europe.

Come on, it's not even a heckscape. Basically a bigger Europe with cooler animals. It's important to have a little chill.

And crappy local food.

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My dad was an over-the-road trucker in the 80's. Since he had been a mechanic his whole life, he saved a LITTLE money by doing all the work on it himself (but a lot of truckers do).

Even then, the joke was:

"A trucker from won the lottery. On the news he was asked, 'What are you going to do with all that money?', to which he replied, 'Ohh, I'll probably just keep trucking till it's gone'".

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I know that's the popular thing to say nowadays, but it really isn't.

As long as your a straight white male with great health and a wealthy background, it’s lovely.

Meh. It gets boring. I’m checking all those boxes but I yearn home and find myself spending month in Europe per years as opposed to weeks.

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I wish you could "tip" shipments, something like a "I don't care when or how this arrives, just eventually get it here". I partake a bit once in awhile where a package is "listed" as delivered and appears the next day, I suspect someone somewhere is scanning it in and then delivering later.

IRRC there used to be far slower domestic parcel shipping options but I think as things sped up it really didn’t make sense to keep it around. The whole pipeline was working faster regardless.

7~10 day ground shipping is still a thing. Unless you mean even slower services.

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"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

The WSJ's journalism side isn't its editorial board. They're the same youngish college grads and old lifers as everywhere else.

You might want to rethink your perspective on this. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/opinion/trump-meritocracy...

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#46

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If you don’t get paid when you are sick, you are in essence being punished for being sick. Not being punished for being sick is a basic human right. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights entered into force in 1976. The human rights that the Covenant seeks to promote and protect include: the right to work in just and favourable conditions; the right to social protection, to an adequate sta…

> The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights entered into force in 1976. Note that was never ratified by the United States

And here we are.

Re: America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

#47

My dad was an over-the-road trucker in the 80's. Since he had been a mechanic his whole life, he saved a LITTLE money by doing all the work on it himself (but a lot of truckers do). Even then, the joke was: "A trucker from won the lottery. On the news he was asked, 'What are you going to do with all that money?', to which he replied, 'Ohh, I'll probably just keep trucking till it's gone'".

It sounds like he was there after deregulation started making things worse for workers. https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901110994/big-rigged

Re: America’s Truckers, Cargo Pilots and Package Carriers Are Fed Up

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"Unions have been pushing companies to improve on-the-job conditions. After lobbying for it last year, major freight railroads have started offering short-term paid sick leave—in some cases for the first time—to union workers to ensure ample staffing and service levels." Haha, surreal, wall street journal is now telling me that "unions are the institution by which people (in the richest country in the world) are begi…

USA really is a hellscape. The more I learn about the world, the happier I am, I'm not born there but in Europe.

Oh my, this is a rather bleak comment. I’m sorry that you have such an impression.

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See articles 24 and 25: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma... Threatening a person's livelihood if they want to take a couple days off to go to the doctor is denying them "a standard of living adequate for [their] health and well-being". Additionally, if you force your workers to come to work sick, you also threaten everyone else's standard of healthy living by unnecessarily exposing them to…

"Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay." The with pay term feels oddly specific and overly prescriptive. (If your society had UBI is this implying the employer still must pay you for holidays?) I'd feel the minimum requirement to not threaten livelihood when a potentially coercive relationship exists is unpaid leave should be allowe…

The Declaration of Human Rights is not an abstract philosophical document, it is a practical framework meant to be applied to the world as it is today. It is intentionally prescriptive so that it can influence real-world governments and societies, and it has been somewhat successful in that regard.

It is not intended to be applicable to any society imaginable, that would be impossibly broad.

On a practical note, I disagree with you that reducing someone's income if they need to stay home to stay healthy is non-coercive, in the world as it exists today.

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See articles 24 and 25: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma... Threatening a person's livelihood if they want to take a couple days off to go to the doctor is denying them "a standard of living adequate for [their] health and well-being". Additionally, if you force your workers to come to work sick, you also threaten everyone else's standard of healthy living by unnecessarily exposing them to…

"Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay." The with pay term feels oddly specific and overly prescriptive. (If your society had UBI is this implying the employer still must pay you for holidays?) I'd feel the minimum requirement to not threaten livelihood when a potentially coercive relationship exists is unpaid leave should be allowe…

Under UBI, you would not be paid less no matter which days you do or don't work, including holidays. Also arguably if UBI weren't tied to a job, then any "job" would really just be volunteer work.
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