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Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by orangepurple »

dmix wrote: post #8
recursive wrote: post #3

I don't really know how this all works, but can't I (a hypothetical human) just create a user account on each disconnected sub-graph? Why is this significant?

Imagine your mom emails you and asks why she can't access her favourite subreddit anymore and you have to explain she now has to make 2 different accounts to access different subreddits. I mean 'instances'. I just picture my own trying to wrap her head around "why". It sounds like a minor hurdle to our demographic but most people are super lazy and bad at juggling online authentications. I would never recommend Masto…

You don't need to make 2 different accounts to access different instances unless you want to post.

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by burnished »

dmix wrote: post #8
recursive wrote: post #3

I don't really know how this all works, but can't I (a hypothetical human) just create a user account on each disconnected sub-graph? Why is this significant?

Imagine your mom emails you and asks why she can't access her favourite subreddit anymore and you have to explain she now has to make 2 different accounts to access different subreddits. I mean 'instances'. I just picture my own trying to wrap her head around "why". It sounds like a minor hurdle to our demographic but most people are super lazy and bad at juggling online authentications. I would never recommend Masto…

I can explain it to your mom: "they broke up and stopped talking to each other".

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by jpk »

recursive wrote: post #3

I don't really know how this all works, but can't I (a hypothetical human) just create a user account on each disconnected sub-graph? Why is this significant?

Alternatively, one account on an instance that still federates with both halves of the split could still see content from both sides? One could even do this by running their own instance? Or is there something preventing this?

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by vyvyvy »

The problem is that it's still a feudal system like Reddit's is, with power concentrated in the administrative nobility.

The only major difference with Reddit is that the latter has an additional, all-powerful layer of royalty that holds control over these lesser lords. Whereas Lemmy has them all fighting each other.

Either way, the peasantry just has to put up with whatever nonsense battling the ruling class involve themselves in.

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by orangepurple »

wpietri wrote: post #33

> the disproportionate number of moderator actions we take against users of these two instances This is a key dynamic. People are used to social media sites being kept livable thanks to a team of paid professionals and fancy ML tooling, often supported by volunteer labor. But here the volunteers are in charge and many of them have other things to do than deal with people's bullshit just to keep the user growth graph…

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Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by zhte415 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #29

Well, this kills the idea of Lemmy before it even got the chance to be born. Beehaw is the second largest instance by number of users - and LemmyWorld is the third. Them defederating from each other effectively shards the network into two halves, making the whole thing useless. Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.

Run your own Lemmy and federate to both.

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by jrflowers »

epiccoleman wrote: post #25
jrflowers wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> any hope of creating a community to rival reddit is going to be thrown out the window. I haven’t been following lemmy, can you elaborate on this? Isn’t the idea of blocking instances part of the point? Like if I made “GoatseLemmy: Where Every Post Is Goatse” I wouldn’t expect content on it to be available for everyone without any input from admins that pay to run other servers.

Um, hey, sorry but please expect a letter from my lawyer. That's my startup idea.

My Burning Man art installation is ruined!

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by ziml77 »

fariszr wrote: post #28
TMWNN wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lemmy has a great chance achieving what mastodon couldn't Why would you expect that? Don't Mastodon instances also routinely block each other?

IMO mastodon failed to replace Twitter because high profiles didn't migrate. but in Reddits case, you follow an interest instead of a specific person, meaning if enough people are active in the tech community on Lemmy it can replace reddit much faster than mastodon can replace twitter, as it doesn't matter which users migrated.

This is why I think Reddit will be easier for people to move away from. For the most part you're not interested in any individual, just the topics.

Re: Lemmy Instances are already blocking each other

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Post by GaggiX »

This is the fate of any federated social, maybe now it is not a big problem and the feature is used properly to moderate spam, but soon it would probably end up like Mastodon, where you can have multiple accounts on different instances, but there are always some instances you cannot access because the moderators have banned a huge list of servers (usually for political reasons) where you have your account, not even .social/.online are safe, and let's not even talk about the biggest Japanese ones.
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