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Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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I avoid driving anywhere near Tesla’s, especially tailing them. Phantom braking is not okay.

phantom breaking isnt a thing in 2023. it used to be a problem, it's not anymore if you have HW3

Spoken by someone who clearly doesn’t own or drive a Tesla. Phantom braking is very much STILL an unsolved problem.

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

> "The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal" It seems like you're holding Tesla to a higher standard than any other automaker. Which other automakers reve…

> It seems like you're holding Tesla to a higher standard than any other automaker.

Other automakers don't go and scream around in their advertising (or in the antics of their founder) to the degree Tesla does.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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How different is this from any other similar sized companies behaviour?

This site doesn't seem that impartial/unbiased. From a linked article on Tesla:

> It’s also worth noting that the above email was sent after 2 a.m. Pacific, which isn’t specifically relevant to the faked video. But it does make it look like Musk is a loser with no friends or anything else to do other than work. Loser.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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I avoid driving anywhere near Tesla’s, especially tailing them. Phantom braking is not okay.

You shouldn't tail any car in general. There's a lot more 'real' braking out there than 'phantom' braking.

Sure, but an unexpected full ABS lock when you can see nothing in front of the tesla is going to be yard for most to react quickly too even at a decent distance. 10 second follow distances are only possible in most metros during very light traffic.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I treat them like semi-trucks on the highway. Pass them or let them pass you, but don't loiter alongside, behind or in front of one.

I treat them like the safest cars to be around. Because statistically, they are?

According to statistics that Tesla publish.

I would like to see mercedes publish their own statistics on their FSD. Given the tight constraints where they allow self driving, they could easily claim 100% safety record and thus infinitive more safe than any other manufacturer. It would be misleading, but statistically it would be the truth (any accidents could be said to be outside the constraint and thus will not count).

Personally I would only really trust such statistics if insurance companies would reflect that in the premium. Somehow I doubt they would be willing to cut the fee based on what Tesla claims.

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I avoid driving anywhere near Tesla’s, especially tailing them. Phantom braking is not okay.

You shouldn't tail any car in general. There's a lot more 'real' braking out there than 'phantom' braking.

Real braking happens for a reason, to avert accidents. Sane drivers don't do it just randomly in perfectly safe situations. Random braking is major risk for everyone around and if you are source of it, you are in fact danger foe others.

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

> "The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal" It seems like you're holding Tesla to a higher standard than any other automaker. Which other automakers reve…

We should treat Tesla the same as VW during the emissions scandal.

Look forward to a criminal fraud investigation, billions in fines, Musk resigning etc.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

> "The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal" It seems like you're holding Tesla to a higher standard than any other automaker. Which other automakers reve…

are you deciding that this is acceptable based on an assumption that it is commonplace?

because it sure reads like this is exactly what your view.

it doesn't matter if there's a double standard, it's bad behavior no matter what the rules are for everyone else. and if there is a double standard then that is something else that needs addressing. a double standard does not diminish the severity of these documents.

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