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Hmm good points. Also, what if you create an account with Facebook, and then later decide to deactivate your Facebook, what happens to that account you just created?
When I use Facebook Auth in my applications, I create a''User'' account with the clients e-mail address and a nil password. My users can then use "Password Recovery" to get a password for traditional login.
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Off base. Facebook login was implement to prevent a Chatroulette problem (nudity and profanity). The Internet Fuckwad theory: normal person + anonymity + audience = total fuckwad ( http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Greater-Internet-Fuckwad-Th... ) explains why anonymity allows bad behavior. The decision had nothing to do with laziness, and everything to do with encouraging real identity on the app.
Agreed that anonymity brings trolls. What about low-friction sharing that Facebook Auth brings? How did this play into your decision? You said earlier that you used to ask for that authorization AFTER asking for login auth?
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Off base. Facebook login was implement to prevent a Chatroulette problem (nudity and profanity). The Internet Fuckwad theory: normal person + anonymity + audience = total fuckwad ( http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-Greater-Internet-Fuckwad-Th... ) explains why anonymity allows bad behavior. The decision had nothing to do with laziness, and everything to do with encouraging real identity on the app.
Agreed that anonymity brings trolls. What about low-friction sharing that Facebook Auth brings? How did this play into your decision? You said earlier that you used to ask for that authorization AFTER asking for login auth?
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Just curious, why don't you trust Facebook? Did you trust them at one point in time? What made you lose your trust? I'm a designer so it's interesting to me what's behind all the Facebook hate.
I dunno, maybe this[1], or this[2], or this[3], for starters. [1] http://www.pcworld.com/article/140182/facebooks_beacon_more_... [2] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/05/canadian-gro... [3] http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/media-lab/social-media/14...
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I don't really understand what Spotify is thinking with the FB-only login. I get that it's free advertising and data for them, but it seems like there's probably a very large percentage of potential users who are uncomfortable with spamming each one of their FB friends every time they listen to a song (not to mention "guilty pleasure songs" that people would be embarrassed to listen to knowing that everyone will see…
I was under the impression that you could turn this off; and that the people who actually care whether they're spamming their friends or not would go to the trouble of doing so.
What gets me is it's 2012 and we still have to keep solving account management over and over. It's a big bucket of word dealing with multiple signup methods, resetting passwords, profile pictures, etc. I wish there were an open source project that unified best practices (in various tech stacks).
Open ID tried and failed. What I see now is more developers creating their own registration auth. Even if they lose on signup conversions vs. 1-click Fb or Twitter, they avoid duplicate account mixups.
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Thanks for sharing this. I had no idea people felt this strongly about their data. In user testing, I picked up that people are afraid of apps publishing to their walls, or worse, friends' walls behind their back. I got that people don't trust developers with their Facebook credentials because of the abuses in the past, but what you're saying is that you don't trust Facebook itself. Thank you - now I know this going…
Another perspective: people wear hats. We cater the hat to the audience we're addressing. This isn't just a web phenomenon - we've crafted our identities in the real world for thousands of years in order to manipulate the target audience in some fashion or another. For that reason, it's not a smart idea to link a single human to a unified web presence. Facebook login makes sense in its convenience, but in reality, it…
I don't care about apps using my Facebook data (what little there is). I don't trust Facebook not to use data from/about apps that I use. That's why I would never use my Facebook ID to log in to anything. Actually I can come up with a better summary: I don't trust Facebook
I don't use FB but I have a fake account specifically for this purpose. They are more than welcome to my alter ego's (who is 30+ years older than me and lives in a different state) opinion on pizza crust recipes, bike parts purchases, etc.
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I was under the impression that you could turn this off; and that the people who actually care whether they're spamming their friends or not would go to the trouble of doing so.
Ah, if that's true I didn't know. I think I sort of assumed that if it could be turned off, pretty much everyone would (and I've only ever seen technologically competent people posting these ticker stories), but I guess not.
There's no incentive for me, as a college derp, to turn it off - after all, it's not impacting my experience on Facebook. Sure, everyone else's feeds are annoying, but it's like a mix of the prisoner's dilemma and the tragedy of the commons.
Not to mention, you can hide truly annoying feeds - but again, most people don't care.
My solution is no longer visiting Facebook. I keep my account because it's still the least inconvenient way to plan events.
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I dunno, maybe this[1], or this[2], or this[3], for starters. [1] http://www.pcworld.com/article/140182/facebooks_beacon_more_... [2] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2008/05/canadian-gro... [3] http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/media-lab/social-media/14...
Thanks for the links. Seeing 1 from '07, one from '08, and one from last year, seems that it's been building up for 5 years. Yeah, I see your point.