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AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

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Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

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One particularly nasty thing about automatically throttling the top 5% is that it is completely divorced from costs and level of usage. Over time, if heavy users try using less data, that will just depress the amount of usage required to be the in top 5% -- but 5% of customers will still be affected by throttling. On a side note, I wonder how the cost of supplying customer service to address the complaints of the top…

That is why I made as much noise as possible about the (IMO) abusive throttling practices of my previous ISP. Don't take this cr*p lying down, call them and tell them youre unhappy, ask them to disable it on your connection (they won't) and when they refuse, demand to speak to the supervisor. Rinse and repeat. Make it cost more to throttle than it does not to.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#42
AT&T is vile garbage. I'm grandfathered into their unlimited plan, but throughout NYC, at work, and at home, my reception is spotty at best. As discussed in this thread, their customer service is non-existant.

With an unlimited data plan at worse than dial-up speeds, the data service is useless. I'm planning on switching to Verizon when my iPhone 4 AT&T contract is up, but I'm not holding my breath for any better customer service from Verizon. There really is no cell phone company in the US that I want to give my money to.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 4S has CDMA and GSM radios built in. You could just unlock it and move it over if you can find the right CSR to add your IMEI to Verizon.

You can't "just" unlock it. Unlocking is risky: it voids your warranty, makes the process of updating your OS difficult or impossible, and has a very real chance of bricking your phone.

Unlocking does not void your warrantee. I've had many unlocked iPhones replaced under warrantee. That said, if you brick it while unlocking (and the 4S tools are very new), you won't be covered.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won't work. Different network and different hardware.

Unless you have a 4S.

Even though the 4S is supposedly a GSM/CDMA combined phone, its still locked to individual carriers, unless you happened to buy the unlocked version at nearly $800 USD.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcwebertobias/2011/12/22/how-u...

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#45
As recently as 18 months ago, I routinely got solid customer service from AT&T. While the wireless service itself was really sketchy in NY and SF, any account problems were handled with competence and care.

Given the incredible blowback they'd received from their poor iPhone support, I always felt compelled to tell the people I ended up talking to that they were doing great jobs, and that in spite of what was said in the press about them not having their act together, I found them to be on their game, and that I really appreciated the effort they were making.

Then something changed. Intelligence and responsiveness went off a cliff. On the occasions I did have to call I ended up so deeply infuriated that I'd find myself becoming angry BEFORE having to call again - even months later. It almost seemed that they'd adopted a posture of calculated incompetence, specifically designed discourage people from calling them.

Within a year (and after a series of truly appalling encounters) I'd gone from publicly defending them to hating them with an intensity bordering on incandescent. Were their service any less vital to my life in general, perhaps I'd feel more sanguine. But given the central importance of wireless connectivity, a "service" relationship costing north of $100 per month and delivering nothing by dropped calls and furious anger quickly made it to the top of of my dump-judiciously list.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#46
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Part of the shock the OP had is their suprise at 2.1GB putting them in the top 5%. That seems believable to me. I worked in a residential ISP and once ran the numbers on about how much data people use. Something like 90% of people didn't go above 5GB or so. And this was on residential DSL, not on mobile internet. Of course in theory this is going to reduce the average usage of AT&T users, since someone is always on t…

>Something like 90% of people didn't go above 5GB or so. And this was on residential DSL, not on mobile internet.

That's skewed to people who don't value a fast internet connection. Those that do have moved on from vanilla DSL to DOCSIS based cable, FIOS, U-verse, and other technologies. I'm not surprised that plain jane DSL is the home of retirees and people whose needs rarely go beyond a facebook/web machine.

Funny thing is that I'm with two providers the conventional "wisdom" here and at others sites like reddit consider to be garbage: comcast and tmobile. Comcast is honest with me and publishes its 250gb cap. I get 13/3mbps for that 250gb. Tmobile gives a 5gb cap on my S2 before throttling, thats 5gb on a fast HSPA+ connection. No games, no BS(well by corporate standards), and I can check my usage easily. I can't imagine having to deal with AT&T. Didn't they just unilateraly make everyone pay extra for text messages a couple months ago? Its horror stories all the way down. Meanwhile, I'm going pretty good with my supposedly "bad" providers reddit and consumerist likes to rant about.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#47
I wish ISPs would just give up on the whole "Unlimited" concept. Clearly it's not practical for them to offer truly unlimited service, so let's just cut the bullshit and go to usage-based billing.

Unfortunately, the tech community hates usage-based billing about as much as they hate throttling. Baffles me as to why.

I think we need to make it illegal to advertise "unlimited" without it actually being unlimited. I would have thought that existing truth-in-advertising laws would cover this, but apparently they don't.

Make it illegal to promise what you never intend to deliver and this whole problem goes away. If unlimited is practical to offer, then it will be offered. If unlimited is not practical, then ISPs will no longer be allowed to pretend that it is, and will be encouraged to make the limitations of their offers obvious up-front instead of using shady nonsense like this.

Re: AT&T Throttling Unlimited Plans after 2GB Data Use

#49
post #42

AT&T is vile garbage. I'm grandfathered into their unlimited plan, but throughout NYC, at work, and at home, my reception is spotty at best. As discussed in this thread, their customer service is non-existant. With an unlimited data plan at worse than dial-up speeds, the data service is useless. I'm planning on switching to Verizon when my iPhone 4 AT&T contract is up, but I'm not holding my breath for any better cus…

If you don't mind me asking, why are T-Mo/Sprint/US Cellular/etc not options for you?
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