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Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by goldenManatee »

Moldoteck wrote: post #24
throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #14

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

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Where is the line between porn and art, and how would it remain a consistently enforceable standard? Since early times, through the Greeks to now, art celebrates nudity and sometimes depicts static (because earlier civilizations had no video) representations of sex and violence mixing in order to tell a story (uhh … Persephone and Hades, much? or Zeus turning into a thousand animals to lure women then rape them). Where do you draw the line; why draw it “there” as opposed to anywhere else; by what right is it to suppress, in the process, others’ definition of where to draw said line?

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #28
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, we could decide to censor violence, religion, social media, subcultures, sugar, the study of chemistry, and perhaps coffeine. I don't think it's a blind spot. It's a deliberate decision not to be overprotective. Should it be the government's responsibility to censor anything that people easily get into with bad consequences?

I'm not saying it should be the governments responsibility. And governments are already heavily censoring and trying to kill child pornography, religion and certain political views, so why would this be so different ? It should be our responsibility as humans and parents to protect our children. If we are not thinking about our children and protecting them from content that could be potentially life changing and addi…

>why would this be so different ?

That's literal slippery slope. What is different?

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by inDigiNeous »

sterlind wrote: post #38
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "act" in these pieces, mostly by older men who are just using these women for their own pleasure and financial benefits.

Is this okay ?

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #28
rhn_mk1 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, we could decide to censor violence, religion, social media, subcultures, sugar, the study of chemistry, and perhaps coffeine. I don't think it's a blind spot. It's a deliberate decision not to be overprotective. Should it be the government's responsibility to censor anything that people easily get into with bad consequences?

I'm not saying it should be the governments responsibility. And governments are already heavily censoring and trying to kill child pornography, religion and certain political views, so why would this be so different ? It should be our responsibility as humans and parents to protect our children. If we are not thinking about our children and protecting them from content that could be potentially life changing and addi…

The government's responsibility is that the government passes the laws to censor things, not that it does the dirty work of actual censorship.

Censoring religion and political views is regarded as a violation of human rights, so while this is different, I do agree that it should be treated the same.

I agree with the need to protect people from bad influences, but the government is not the only entity that's capable of protecting. Traditionally, that role has also been fulfilled by the social network and the person in question themselves. I don't see the urge to shove it all off on the government, except in cases where the social network is failing to protect, e.g. in the cases of crime.

There's a balance to be hit between the ability to take risk and the negative consequences. Best example is personal vehicles which cause life changing consequences when they go wrong, sometimes ending lives altogether, and doing this reliably to thousands of people every year.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by inDigiNeous »

LispSporks22 wrote: post #34
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

You do you. Leave everyone else alone.

By this logic we should not try to even protect our kids from anything.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by antris »

goldenManatee wrote: post #41
Moldoteck wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Where is the line between porn and art, and how would it remain a consistently enforceable standard? Since early times, through the Greeks to now, art celebrates nudity and sometimes depicts static (because earlier civilizations had no video) representations of sex and violence mixing in order to tell a story (uhh … Persephone and Hades, much? or Zeus turning into a thousand animals to lure women then rape them). Whe…

The people who want to ban porn also want to extinguish free culture. So I would say this is a feature, not a bug.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by Xylakant »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #31
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

> We give 5 year olds smartphones which can lead to the most disturbing porn scenes by just googling a couple of words If you want something done about it, use parental control.

And maybe don’t hand smartphones to 5 years olds unsupervised.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by inDigiNeous »

moi2388 wrote: post #29

The USA is so f*cking retarded. Sure, take all the drugs and pills you want. Sure, but guns. Sure, watch all the death and violence you want. But don’t you dare look at a nipple!

Yeah the hypocrisy is really silly. You can kill, murder, maim people, but oh no better censor that butt crack showing!

And yet at the same time, most of the porn industry is in the US.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by albertopv »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

"We give 5 year olds smartphones"

Well, maybe don't do it? Maybe not until they are 12yo or something like that? My feeling is many parents don't want to parent at all and so they delegate to smartphone, tablets and TVs. Parents should go back to be more...parents.

We don't have an ipad exactly because otherwise my 6yo would like to play with it (her friends have one) instead of going out and play outside. In my opinion children should not have a smartphone, do tangible stuff and games.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by mahkeiro »

M5x7wI3CmbEem10 wrote: post #25
inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

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No as it's almost impossible to attribute these effect to porn as porn is too widely spread among women and men, and most of the "porn behavior" existed before that porn was universally consumed. Strangely most of these studies talked about men behavior when women consume a lot of porn.

This is the same kind of things you hear about gay, role playing games, metal music, video games, rap music that are all rotting the brain of young people.

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