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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by duxup »

Zigurd wrote: post #23
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

It's the oems fault in this case. And they have no excuse. Google has modified the architecture of Android to make it possible for oems to update as quickly as possible, as well as all of the previous efforts to enable updating user-facing features without updating the OS. But it's all still a kludge compared to iOS. The bottom line is I don't think this is solvable with technology. Google should have gotten much tou…

I agree about it being impossible to solve the update issues with tech.

There are too many benefits for the OEMs to dump phones on the market and not update. No reason to care otherwise so far, sadly.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by johnny22 »

not_your_vase wrote: post #24
johnny22 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

are you sure it doesn't? My low end "nokia" from HMD Global has an option to unlock the bootloader. Maybe this one does as well.

It's a hit or miss with them... my old Nokia 6.1 (ditto HMD) came with no option to unlock the bootloader. Based on some superficial Googling, this phone's predecessor, G21 also comes without an unlockable bootloader.

ah. my 6.2 does have an unlockable bootloader.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by ali7388 »

dogma1138 wrote: post #28

Not they haven’t this phone isn’t anymore repairable than an iPhone it might be just a bit more serviceable. Users can’t do board or component level repairs, and Nokia isn’t making schematics, diagnostic software and access to low level firmware that will be needed to independently repair this phone available. User replaceable battery is nice, however every other component is reliant on a supply on parts being made a…

Users can order cheap parts from china just fine.

The problem is with manufacturers. Encrypting parts, so simple part swap does not work. Or replacement screen for $300...

Apple is really really bad when it comes to repairability!

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by camhart »

amelius wrote: post #21
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

Yes, I had to throw away my perfectly capable phone because my banking app refused to work at some point because the version of Android was too old and the phone stopped supporting newer versions of Android. Edit: not sarcastic, 100% serious.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

I have 5+ year old Android phones that have no issue with banking apps. I'm not sure where this rhetoric is coming from, but it doesn't align with my experience on Android.

Capital one/wells fargo requires android 8+. Citi bank 7.1+. (I stopped looking it up at this point). 8 was released in 2017. So assuming 2 years of major OS updates, that means roughly phones from 2015 can still work with it.

Also... even if the app stops working, you can use a web browser still.

Phone batteries die off long before this becomes a reality.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by studentik »

aspyct wrote: post #3

This will be nice if and only if there is a way to install a custom android version. Otherwise it'll be bogged down with bloatware and will be useless as soon as security updates aren't available anymore. But if so, very nice :)

I imagine IntelliJ running on Archlinux from Nokia phone with wireless high-resolution glasses display

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Post by theshrike79 »

duxup wrote: post #34
tuetuopay wrote: post #15

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades. And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone…

Yeah my wife’s old iPhone 8 Plus still gets updates, still runs. Many of my android devices from that time are dead, no more updates, and/or borderline unusable due to random android slowdown performance issues. In fact running across that old phone is what convinced me to switch.

Yep, that's the lifecycle of iPhones.

I usually get the latest and greatest from work every 2 years. Then I pay a nominal fee to get it for myself (because of taxes or accounting or something).

I get a new phone from the company, my old one goes to my SO. Their old one goes either to my kid or to mine or my SO's parents, depending on which part of the lifecycle they are at.

Can't do that with Android, the 5-6 year old ones would be so bad and out of date that I wouldn't want to be the one doing tech support for them.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by vbezhenar »

cvalka wrote: post #26
amelius wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I had to throw away my perfectly capable phone because my banking app refused to work at some point because the version of Android was too old and the phone stopped supporting newer versions of Android. Edit: not sarcastic, 100% serious.

Security updates are a must. Without them it's not a usable device

Not everyone cares about security updates.
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