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Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by mmastrac »

LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…

I use a FP4 in Canada and it's been amazing. I suffer from a lack of parts, but I make up with that for excuses to vacation in Europe.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by johnny22 »

aspyct wrote: post #3

This will be nice if and only if there is a way to install a custom android version. Otherwise it'll be bogged down with bloatware and will be useless as soon as security updates aren't available anymore. But if so, very nice :)

are you sure it doesn't? My low end "nokia" from HMD Global has an option to unlock the bootloader. Maybe this one does as well.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by mmastrac »

cwiggs wrote: post #4
LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…

What phone do you have that has a battery that big?

I ran a Samsung S5 (?) like this many, many years ago and it was pretty cool but holy crap it was a beast. My jeans pockets started to stretch out from carrying it, and it was impossible to keep it in a jacket pocket at all.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by ryukafalz »

LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…

You'll still be waiting, I think. The Verge's coverage says it's not coming to the US: https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/25/23611844/hmd-nokia-g22-re...

(I've similarly been wanting a FairPhone here.)

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by tuetuopay »

> It runs Android 12 and will be supported for three years of monthly security updates and two major Android version upgrades.

And that's why I stick to iPhones for long-lasting devices, those two major versions are a joke. Apple has the crown with seven on the iPhone 6S. When will someone make Android phones other than Pixels with non-abysmal software support? Yes, I know you can install alternate ROMs on your phone, but this is not what the general public does, especially with a phone at this price point. The average joe will definitely change his phone after three years when they cannot install whatsapp or messenger or their banking app anymore.

That said, kudos to Nokia for entering this market, I genuinely hope it will be profitable enough for them to keep it up!

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by cvalka »

aspyct wrote: post #3

This will be nice if and only if there is a way to install a custom android version. Otherwise it'll be bogged down with bloatware and will be useless as soon as security updates aren't available anymore. But if so, very nice :)

There's no bloatware since Nokia's Android is Android one. However, the bootloader is locked and their Android's EOF is abysmal which is crazy.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by LinuxBender »

ryukafalz wrote: post #14
LinuxBender wrote: post #2

Nice! I've been waiting for something like the FairPhone to show up in the US. A sweet bonus would be if they also provided and fully supported de-googled image or at least had an option to download the de-googled image after accepting some disclaimers. Or perhaps even set up a public community for phone hackers to help them build said image i.e. crowdsource the work . An optional large shell for a bigger battery wou…

You'll still be waiting, I think. The Verge's coverage says it's not coming to the US: https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/25/23611844/hmd-nokia-g22-re... (I've similarly been wanting a FairPhone here.)

Oh, darn. Well then maybe Nokia will read these comments and hopefully add some of my wish-list before it comes to the US.

Re: Nokia launches DIY repairable budget Android phone

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Post by PaulKeeble »

5 years for parts is better than nothing but its still a lot of e-waste. Ideally given screens and ports and batteries are something that have been around for decades and will be around for decades more in similar ways it would be nice to extend this out longer. With progress on CPUs/GPUs slowing we do need to start to consider much longer usable life times for computer products and having obsolence built in at 5 years when a consumable like the battery fails isn't OK.

OS updates also very short so this phone is quickly going to end up on LineageOS.

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