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I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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A question to the community:

I find it a bit weird how as an undergraduate you have no idea what a PhD is like. At the same time, no-one really tells you. Everyone just says "research is quite different to doing an undergrad degree". I have not encountered any educational little seminars or support systems that basically tell you: look, this is is what doing a PhD is like, this is what you generally are expected to do, these are milestones that are average/good to have at these times within your PhD, these are examples of people having done a great PhD, and so on.

If your supervisor is a bit hands-off then you're kind of thrown into a job/position and are just expected to figure out what you should do or how it works. I find this odd and very inefficient. Especially in view of how little a fresh graduate student knows.

Anyone else finding this weird? Is it similar or different in industry/non-academic jobs?

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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There seems to be a faint correlation between procrastination and Bear blogs. Here are two different entries from different authors that I've favorited, both because the struggle is real and relatable, and from the immense amount of discussion both sparked. I look forward to seeing the same with this one.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31285969

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31426683

Is Bear the new Xanga or something

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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If you're not just making slow progress but literally unable to make a single bit of progress, my goto strategy is similar to what writers call a vomit draft. For writing it conventionally means means writing words without stopping to plan or edit, no corrections allowed, the rule is you just have to keep typing, no matter what. It's about something being better than nothing, creating momentum, and also avoids being…

The equivalent of this today is getting high and using GPT3. I don’t think there is a name for it—yet.

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

#44
After reading the other posts on your blog, I'm not entirely convinced that procrastination is your real problem. You've already seen a therapist, I think you should continue doing that. And ... if something makes you truly unhappy, don't be afraid to let it go.

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

#45
> There's lots of people in similar situations, and I'm sure a few of them finally broke out of it.

I went through a very similar death spiral as a grad student. Frustration leads to dread leads to slower progress leads to more dread leads to no progress and depression.

I wish I had some magic trick to reset my mind in times like that, but I don't. I wound up dropping out and went to industry instead... and while the failure stung at the time, it was the best decision I ever made. Academia is a job. If your job is making you miserable, it's probably time to move on to another job -- especially if you have marketable skills. For me at least, it was so much easier to reset facing new problems, problems that I didn't go to work dreading.

My big takeaway was that this is a failure state for me, and that I need to be aware of myself and head it off before I'm trapped. I need to therapy, coaching, or other help before the death spiral sets in. But breaking out of it and making progress on the hell-project? I dunno, sorry.

I'll also say that, if you're like me, you may have struggled with suicidal thoughts. The thought that kept me sane, prior to leaving, was reminding myself that it would be ridiculous to kill myself over work. Work isn't the purpose of living, being at the top of your field isn't the purpose of living, even being an academic isn't the purpose of living. There's billions of people on earth living fulfilling lives with boring, mundane jobs, finding satisfaction in friends and family and hobbies instead... so I would remind myself that, worst come to worst, I'd go find a boring, mundane job to pay the bills and find my satisfaction elsewhere.

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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If you're not just making slow progress but literally unable to make a single bit of progress, my goto strategy is similar to what writers call a vomit draft. For writing it conventionally means means writing words without stopping to plan or edit, no corrections allowed, the rule is you just have to keep typing, no matter what. It's about something being better than nothing, creating momentum, and also avoids being…

> I do all that but I sometimes make it even more extreme. I make it the goal to produce truly terrible version of the the thing I'm trying to make. You know, I've read and heard all sorts of advice on writing, and this is the first time I've seen this, and I think it's brilliant. Undergrad me absolutely should have done this, 'cause the perfectionism I grew up with took a long time to unlearn. Do you have an opinion…

ADHD happens to correlate with a higher rate of addiction, substance abuse.

I would not recommend getting drunk as a tool for getting things done. The problem is it might work. And if it does, you don't want to make a habit of reaching for that tool whenever you find yourself procrastinating. That way lies aforementioned statistics.

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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If you're not just making slow progress but literally unable to make a single bit of progress, my goto strategy is similar to what writers call a vomit draft. For writing it conventionally means means writing words without stopping to plan or edit, no corrections allowed, the rule is you just have to keep typing, no matter what. It's about something being better than nothing, creating momentum, and also avoids being…

This is genius. Anecdotally I’ve seen a high correlation between procrastination and perfectionism. Once you have a vomit draft I can see how the perfectionist bent suddenly works in your favour.

When coding I have a rule: "first make it work, then make it pretty".

The MVP can be a complete spaghetti piece of crap, just make it work. When it works, you can iterate on making it elegant.

Oh, and if you work for a Corporation, don't tell them it's done when the crappy MVP finally works. You're still "working on it" if they ask.

Otherwise the spaghetti crap will end up in production.

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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After reading the other posts on your blog, I'm not entirely convinced that procrastination is your real problem. You've already seen a therapist, I think you should continue doing that. And ... if something makes you truly unhappy, don't be afraid to let it go.

Hey, I'm the author. I fully agree procrastination isn't my main problem, but I think it stems from my inability to regulate my emotions properly. I've started journaling and meditating to try and take back control of my brain. Therapy is also something I'm considering taking up again.

This blog started as my hidden corner of the internet to cry into the void (and practice pure css web design) which is why my posts are all so depressing

Re: I've procrastinated working on my thesis for more than a year

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If you're not just making slow progress but literally unable to make a single bit of progress, my goto strategy is similar to what writers call a vomit draft. For writing it conventionally means means writing words without stopping to plan or edit, no corrections allowed, the rule is you just have to keep typing, no matter what. It's about something being better than nothing, creating momentum, and also avoids being…

The equivalent of this today is getting high and using GPT3. I don’t think there is a name for it—yet.

"Get high and unleash the AI"
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