There is little point in measuring the impact of skipping lunch. Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.
True. There really should be two meals a day Breakfast and Dinner
You forgot Second Breakfast and Elevenses.
Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
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#42> Meal skipping has become an increasing trend of the modern lifestyle that may lead to obesity I believe them that this is correct but does anyone know why? I thought all the "intermittent fasting" folks were losing weight?
I can't give you any good reason why this happens with "intermittent fasting" in particular, but I can tell you that it follows a similar pattern to every other fad diet. Almost everyone who follows them starts controlling what they eat, focussing on losing weight and they generally succeed in doing so for the first ~6 weeks. Then for whatever reason, a small number continue to lose weight and the remainder (the majority) plateau and inevitably fall off and give up.
There are those who these diets work for, and some of those near religiously insist that it's simple and it should work for everyone and that if it isn't working then that's probably down to some personal failing. But the truth is that this is a pattern and it's not specific to any given diet, and it's not necessarily down to someone doing something wrong. For all that we think we know about diets, fat and weight - we haven't quite cracked weight loss and it's certainly not as simple as measuring calories in/out.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#43Maybe meal skipper double up and is more undisciplined on their meals because they think skipping one gives them a free pass
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#44I have skipped breakfast since college when I was much more concerned about bulking up. I drink two coffees and that gets me through til lunch. I’ve never really considered alternatives to this routine. If I wanted to experiment with breakfasts what do people recommend eating? The priority would be energy levels, and mental clarity since I tend to work better in the morning.
Boiled egg(s) and a banana are my go-tos when not skipping. Most days I skip.
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#45n=17, so read nothing into this result. Also, what they tested is having no fixed eating schedule. The effects (if any) of skipping breakfast every day consistently are not measured.
i don't get why some studies have so few partipants. How hard is it to recruit people for something like this? We're not talking rare diseases.
From what I have read in the past this is just how the funding tends to work. You write a grant proposal for a study with 20 people, get funding, get results, use that to get funding for another study with 200, then 2000, etc.
Frequently they don’t manage to make it past the first couple levels because the results aren’t interesting.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#46I have skipped breakfast since college when I was much more concerned about bulking up. I drink two coffees and that gets me through til lunch. I’ve never really considered alternatives to this routine. If I wanted to experiment with breakfasts what do people recommend eating? The priority would be energy levels, and mental clarity since I tend to work better in the morning.
Eggs and some veggies.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#47> Meal skipping has become an increasing trend of the modern lifestyle that may lead to obesity I believe them that this is correct but does anyone know why? I thought all the "intermittent fasting" folks were losing weight?
Only by way of anecdotal experience, but if I skip a meal (or worse, two) I tend towards massive overindulgence at a later meal, and I don't have an innate sense for calorie intake estimation. So I will often end up eating far more calories at the later meal than I might have skipped in the earlier one. Not at all scientific, just 2 cents.
Yeah, I have observed this in my personal noom data. Super interesting. Couple of caveats/exceptions for me- there is a level of diminished calorie intake on a given meal that does not trigger huge compensation on an immediate later meal, around 100 calories or so (for me). I can compensate a little bit but I don't feel unsatisfy-able, like I do when I skip, which leads to overcompensation.
Also, one event of skipped dinner and winding up at, like, 1500 calories for the day can result in normal eating the next day for me if I drink an extra heavy amount of water. But I have to be conscious about it.
In general for me skipping and intermittent fasting is extremely unpleasant and ineffective. Eating 400-500 calories every 3-4 hours- 1800-1900 in all- is far more scalable and enjoyable to maintain or lose a little.
I do believe that extended fasts can be good (for me) but I can't do them and participate in any activities, whether family or work or whatever. An extended fast would need to be a solo week vacation.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#48n=17, so read nothing into this result. Also, what they tested is having no fixed eating schedule. The effects (if any) of skipping breakfast every day consistently are not measured.
If it's clearly not worth HN readers' time, how did it get published in "The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition"? Or am I just naive in thinking published in a Journal still means something? Why did it pass peer review?
It's a scientific journal - a place for the researchers to discuss and discover science.
This is a lay forum - a place more suited to the discussion of decided science.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#49> Meal skipping has become an increasing trend of the modern lifestyle that may lead to obesity I believe them that this is correct but does anyone know why? I thought all the "intermittent fasting" folks were losing weight?
This is the problem with all weight loss and dieting studies and anecdotal evidence. Nothing is ever fixed or set in stone. Some people lose weight with lots of small meals. Some lose weight with one big meal. Some find low carb works, others eat carbs and lose weight. Human metabolism and body weight regulation is very complicated and doesn't readily yield to simple rules or heuristics (beyond CICO).
Even CICO is not straight forward. It is a dynamic system. Eating more can cause increased metabolism and easting less can slow the metabolism.
Re: Impact of breakfast skipping compared with dinner skipping
#50Disappointing design. The "skipped meal" days included just as much food as the 3-meal days, they just stuffed it into fewer meals. Of course this will lead to increased glucose...the people are gorging on extra food. The normal recommendation is to eat a snack, not a full meal, between lunch and dinner when skipping breakfast. You take in fewer calories, fewer carbohydrates, and gain the (not unfounded) benefits of fasting purported in dozens of other studies.