(un?)fortunate url shortening: https://hbr.org/2012/07/i-wont-hire-people-who-use-poo
I mean, I wouldn't. Would you?
I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
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Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#42Unfortunately this is a fairly shortsighted and superficial article which results in severely reducing the pool of people you can work with to a native speaker heavy demographic. The core of the problem is that it assumed care for detail in a domain the writer of the article is comfortable with, translates to care for detail in every other domain. I find this to be a particular self centric view of the world. It is s…
Non-native speakers often have better spelling than native speakers, though grammar mistakes do become apparent in non-native speakers. It grates me when I have to read business communication with poor spelling or poor grammar, especially when done by native speakers --just as much as it grates native speakers of non-English languages when I attempt to speak their language non-natively and they admonish me for my non…
agreed, non-native speakers see the rules where native speakers do not.
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same reason a whole English speaking country also says "on accident" instead of "by accident" and "I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less"... lack of critical thinking and momentum.
This is literally just dialect it has nothing to do with critical thinking.
On/By I can understand being considered dialect, however English is not my first language so my flexibility could be undue.
But saying "I could care less" can only indicate you've never given any thought to what the phrase actually means and how it conveys almost the opposite meaning to what you're trying to say.
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#44The very first line is an error in diction (word choice). Why should I work with someone who doesn't even know what words mean?
Also, this person works at iFixit, which is "bad grammar" itself, and also dedicated to the supposedly moral imperative to repair damaged things to get the benefit of their full value. Yet he discards people for imperfections?
This is quintessential HBR material. Wannabe "thought leaders" high on their own success, publicly embarrassing themselves.
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#45The author's grammar and style wouldn't cut the mustard at some agencies where writing is the difference between delight and dejection.
That's why he is the "most intellectual" guy in his hardware store.
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#46"And just like good writing and good grammar, when it comes to programming, the devil’s in the details."
I'm pretty sure that my 8th grade English teacher would have marked that one down, saying that "just like" should be "as with" or "as in".
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is literally just dialect it has nothing to do with critical thinking.
On/By I can understand being considered dialect, however English is not my first language so my flexibility could be undue. But saying "I could care less" can only indicate you've never given any thought to what the phrase actually means and how it conveys almost the opposite meaning to what you're trying to say.
It's internalized sarcasm into an idiom.
My mom thinks felines and canines are literally falling form the sky. How dumb is she!
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is literally just dialect it has nothing to do with critical thinking.
"I could not care less" means: "My interest is already at zero". The other form is wrong, its proponents sometimes cite irony, but that's very weak.
It's an idiom so the meaning is inherently somewhat divorced from the literal meaning of the words. In this case nearly opposite of it but that's not super unusual itself. It also has an equivalent where the component words are flipped, but the idiom's meaning is the same. Also not extremely rare.
If someone says this with the "wrong" meaning, and a listener understands what they meant without thinking about it or considering alternatives. And you crash in saying "you're wrong!"... who is wrong there?
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#49Unfortunately this is a fairly shortsighted and superficial article which results in severely reducing the pool of people you can work with to a native speaker heavy demographic. The core of the problem is that it assumed care for detail in a domain the writer of the article is comfortable with, translates to care for detail in every other domain. I find this to be a particular self centric view of the world. It is s…
Language is a tool. If you are careless with one tool, it is extremely likely that you will be careless with others. This is why the military gets very picky with trivial issues like making your bed (or "rack") - if you're careless with the little (and easily checked) things, you're likely to be careless with the important things.
> The brown M&M’s principle is the idea that small details can sometimes serve as useful indicators of big issues.
> This principle is named after a rock band (Van Halen), who had a “brown M&M’s clause” in their contracts with event organizers, stipulating that the organizers must provide M&M’s in the backstage area, but that there must be no brown M&M’s available. This small clause gave the band an easy way to check whether organizers actually paid attention to all the details in the contract, which was important given how complicated and potentially dangerous the band’s production was.
0 - https://effectiviology.com/brown-mms/
1 - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brown-out/
That said, I've worked with many immigrants and had many as girlfriends. I'm very tolerant of the sorts of mistakes that second-language learners make (I've learned and forgotten many languages). I'm far less tolerant of native English speakers who can't be bothered with their native tongue.
Re: I won’t hire people who use poor grammar (2012)
#50Fitting URL in the address bar ;->