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Post by Gigachad »

emusan wrote: post #28
teruakohatu wrote: post #2

These niche phones never fail to run old versions of Android. This phone runs Android 11, which was released October 4, 2021. Android 13 was released 15 August 2022.

I owned the first CAT phone with a FLiR thermal imaging sensor and this was by far my biggest gripe. The hardware felt like it was built to last a decade or longer, but the software was chock full of vulnerabilities from day 1, and I think they only provided a few months of proper software updates. I have since (reluctantly) moved to iPhone where I expect that (with my usage) the software should outlast the hardware.

Probably easier to just wrap an iphone in one of those massive cases.

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Post by 51Cards »

lathiat wrote: post #33
51Cards wrote: post #9

Oddly enough I just bought a used Blackview BV9800 Pro phone today purely for the FLIR camera in it. At $140 CAD it was much much cheaper than any of the off the shelf new FLIR options.

That was a steal, a little better a value proposition than my $100 AUD / $92 CAD / $67 USD first generation Flir One (lightning port plug-in for iPhone). Where did you score it for that price, marketplace, eBay? Though even the $500 AUD odd going rate on eBay is pretty good given the cost of any of the devices with a screen built-in.

Canadian classified site, Kijiji. I missed another a couple months back so set a watch for any more ads to pop up and got lucky today.

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by LWIRVoltage »

I have looked at these a lot and wondered when they'll push the bounds of their thermals- I have owned some Therm-App cameras(384X288)(640X480), 30 hzsadly no longer sold as of recently - and it's been incredible having mid and HIGH grade thermal phone-based imaging- but a rugged phone is sturdier and more durable, which goes a long way.

I want to see 320X240(or the european equiv, 384X288), 640X480, and higher resolution thermals in them! Otherwise we're still hanging out around FLIR One Territory, and the years are going by fast and they aren't pushing the boundary really! Those Leptons are cheap, but haven't changed much! (And yes, FLIR MSX is a thing- but , owning thermal cameras with multiples the resolution- i'd take that over MSX if i had to choose, every time)

I see one competitor, the AGM ones like the AGM Glory Ones, (hard to see differences with their top models) , and a few other companies- have Night vision cameras with near-infrared illumination lights, for the user, as well- not just the thermal imaging- It's the dream to see as many different sensors and options in a phone as one can fit.

Trust me, they come into use- I've saved multiple pets in the dark in my neighborhood, spotted equipment that was about to ignite, and done so much more with my own thermal cameras- having MORE capabilities- actually goes farther than you can imagine, when you have them...

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by rootusrootus »

Gigachad wrote: post #39
lathiat wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using a thermal camera in the kitchen is under-rated. I sometimes do the same. Was inspired by this old linux.conf.au talk (that I attended in person) about a microwave with a thermal camera in the top. I would love the same above my kitchen stove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DADx5z-XY I'm a die-hard iPhone user so sadly a built-in won't work for me. I currently have a first generation Lightning FLIR One. It's…

You can buy a stove that uses probes to monitor the temps and hold/stick to a preset program https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/commercial/cmc850.ht... I can't wait for these to become more mainstream so recipes start listing "Set stove to 150c" rather than "to medium" which is widely different depending on what stove you use. An amusing story one youtuber shared was the followed some advice that said to set you…

> advice meant for a gas stove

Can't imagine it would be any different result. 10 minutes preheat on any range is a lot. My cast iron pan started turning silvery blue well before the 10 minute mark with my gas range on high.

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Post by rootusrootus »

teruakohatu wrote: post #2

These niche phones never fail to run old versions of Android. This phone runs Android 11, which was released October 4, 2021. Android 13 was released 15 August 2022.

I was expecting you to say it was something from 2010. By comparison, 2021 doesn't seem half bad.

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Post by asddubs »

tildef wrote: post #11

I used the S62 as a daily driver for a couple of years and it was fairly decent. The convenience of having a thermal camera in your pocket at all times was remarkable, and it's one of those things you kind of miss when it's gone (my daily use for it was checking if the coffee was cool enough to drink--yes, I know my tasting organs provide much of the same functionality...) However, the resolution of the thermal camer…

the 9 FPS I believe are because US manufacturers aren't allowed to export thermal cameras above 9 FPS

Re: Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera

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Post by chrismorgan »

andrewia wrote: post #4

This phone has been out since Spring 2022. Any reason for the post? If we want to talk about the utility of a thermal camera, I found it neat. I used a $150 Seek camera to diagnose poor insulation in my bedroom, and one contractor even offered free advice over email since the images were clear enough. I've also used it to find hot ICs on a PCB. The resolution of these lower cost modules isn't great, which you can see…

> Spring 2022

That was last week.

(Seasons are a lousy way of describing times for anything other than local, geographically-anchored content. They’re only meaningful in a comparatively narrow band, falling apart if you head much towards the poles or equator—the four seasons model is useless in tropical areas especially—and inverting if you head to the other side of the equator.)

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