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Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by lemondrink »

paulpauper wrote: post #17
nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

yeah, many hedge funds and individuals have lost serious $ betting against tesla

YTD $TSLA is down 44%.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by jmopp »

memish wrote: post #28
LatteLazy wrote: post #6

It's very very unclear to me why he bought it. He said it was about free speech but Twitter is already about as free as it's possible to be without permitting a whole bunch of content that is NOT protected under the first amendment (CP, calls to violence etc). And if it is about free speech then it cannot be an automated moderation play, because there is nothing to moderate if you're a pure free speech platform. The…

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People didn't get banned for saying men are not women, they got banned for harassing people and inciting violence. That's how Libs of TikTok avoids the banhammer, by going as close as she can to the line without crossing it.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by yladiz »

nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

Your argument falls apart here, since you can review food without being able to cook said food. For example, you don't need to know how to cook to know that something is burnt and therefore critique it based on that.

What you're really arguing here that Elon Musk is more capable than the previous people in charge of Twitter. I won't defend them much, but based on many of his previous actions I'm skeptical he's going to do any better and in fact think he'll probably do worse than the ex-leadership.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by Bubble_Pop_22 »

nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

> Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could

In a world where people are increasingly living in urban areas, fiber will annihilate satellite internet.

Starlink is yet another niche thing which Musk is specialized in pursuing.

In fact all of Musck companies can be summarized with "everybody has heard of them in the financial and technology press, but not many people use them"

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by dymk »

cma wrote: post #38
paulpauper wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, many hedge funds and individuals have lost serious $ betting against tesla

Don't bet against him getting away with scamming. And don't bet against politicians wanting to affiliate with his celebrity/interact with his clout giving him subsidies.

Yeah, all those Teslas which deffo weren’t sold, what a scam

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by nemo44x »

I'm betting that something like the Google Circles gets implemented but at a higher level. In order to engage with certain people you have to be a member of certain groups/circles or not a member of certain circles/groups. These groups would be moderated by the people that run them. So instead of having Twitter pick and choose who is allowed on the platform, you crowdsource it to the people who want to moderate their groups - and lots of these people exist.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by xiphias2 »

nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

Media has been going totally in the left direction after Trump won.

I don't really like him, but cancelling people exactly at the same time by all media companies shows that it's all controlled by a few people. Of course they try everything to say bad things about Elon now...it's funny to see actually.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by runjake »

nelsonic wrote: post #11

Never bet against Elon. Starlink alone will make more money than twitter ever could. If you don’t see the potential for Twitter. That’s fine. But don’t write an article about how it’s “hell” if you don’t have the vision for how to improve it. That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on. If Elon listened to Haters/Doubters like this Verge journo, th…

Nilay's job is to generate revenue for The Verge and it's shareholders. You generate revenue by increasing ad views. You can increase ad revenue with controversial hot takes with saucy language.

Nilay is doing the exact right thing, in the context of his corporate job.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by LatteLazy »

ultra_nick wrote: post #30
LatteLazy wrote: post #6

It's very very unclear to me why he bought it. He said it was about free speech but Twitter is already about as free as it's possible to be without permitting a whole bunch of content that is NOT protected under the first amendment (CP, calls to violence etc). And if it is about free speech then it cannot be an automated moderation play, because there is nothing to moderate if you're a pure free speech platform. The…

Twitter censors legal mainstream political opinions. Society can't discuss or resolve issues because half of every argument gets blocked. I'm convinced half the polarization in America comes from neither side understanding the other side's basic arguments.

People claim this but apart from banning trump and the "no-deadnaming" thing no one can give me an example...

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by danpalmer »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #21
andsoitis wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His engineering has team figured out content moderation Which of his engineering teams? Tesla? SpaceX? I don't see why they would be working on content moderation.

Hot take: there is overlap between Dojo (Tesla’s self driving ML system they feed data into to tune “FSD” models) and ingesting Tweets and signal to automate content moderation. How good will it be? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ DALL-E is pretty good, let’s see where this goes.

Dojo is just machine learning optimised hardware, and it's optimised specifically for the FSD use-case which is lots of image processing.

I can't imagine it having any benefit whatsoever for Tweet moderation above using some GPUs for ML.

Also Musk likes to pitch integration between his companies but the reality is that there's very little.

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