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Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by Funes- »

bee_rider wrote: post #30
strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ, https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu... The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free"…

I think that makes a whole lot of sense. The actual post explains it wonderfully:

>Most other companies are financially supported by venture capital, in the form of large investments from a small number of people. If you use their services for free, or even if you pay the modest fees for their paid plans, they are not incentivized to serve your needs first. They are beholden to their investors, and at their behest, they may implement changes you don't like: invasive tracking, selling your data, and so on.

>SourceHut has not accepted, and will never accept, any outside investments. Our sole source of revenue is from sr.ht users making their account payments. This incentivizes us to only consider your needs, and not to use you as a resource to be exploited. The financial relationship is much more responsible for both parties.

A very commendable stance.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by severino »

mistrial9 wrote: post #39
severino wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitee (gitee.com) is also a free hosting service that can be used for OSS, afaik.

China-based

I know, but not all of the alternatives noted by the parent post are hosted in Europe, either. Some are US based, and it doesn't mean your project can't be subject to censorship.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by severino »

bauruine wrote: post #40
severino wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gitee (gitee.com) is also a free hosting service that can be used for OSS, afaik.

Which is a Chinese site hosted behind the GFW. I can't even access the site because they block my IP address. I really hope OSS projects don't consider them for their hosting.

I guess it's the same stuff developers from other countries like Iran, Syria, etc., face when trying to work with Github. It's a shame many OSS projects find providers like these OK when there should be plenty of alternatives that don't block users by country.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by medoc »

strenholme wrote: post #15

Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

There is also framagit: https://framagit.org/public/projects which is a Gitlab instance run by a French non-profit, Framasoft: https://framasoft.org/en/ I host my project there, no issues.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by throwaway894345 »

emilengler wrote: post #35
giobox wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't you just run gitlab or whatever else out of a container in 5 seconds nowadays? Map a single volume and you are likely done. Its not that it's hard to self host that I choose to use third party git services (its clearly not!), it's just that the benefits of self hosting a git repository are increasingly few unless you have strict security requirements etc etc, and the free options are so good now. Running self h…

But why? If you have an SSH server running, you can immediately setup a git server. Just do git init —-bare, no gigantic web server overhead. https://rgz.ee/git.html

Presumably people value the UI (also, what is the "gigantic web server overhead" you're referring to?).

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

proxysna wrote: post #14
oever wrote: post #5

> However, you won’t be getting the advanced features like automation or other integration and collaboration features provided by GitHub. Codeberg is working on CI and you can request early access. I've found it to work well and fast. https://codeberg.org/Codeberg-CI

Nice to Woodpecker CI getting some traction. Great software for selfhosted ci. Simpler to start than Jenkins, not as flexible ofc, but most projects do not require that amount of flexibility and footguns. Woodpecker one of the best tools for small/medium self-hosted CI's out there atm.

Ooh yes it's the Drone clone! I haven't used Woodpecker, but Drone is fantastic. Can't wait to use this next time I need a self-hosted CI.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by albert180 »

Funes- wrote: post #41
bee_rider wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we should emphasize that Sourcehut is just currently free while it is in alpha. Mr. DeVault been very upfront about the fact that he's planning to start charging eventually. From his FAQ, https://man.sr.ht/billing-faq.md#why-should-i-pay-when-githu... The point is to set up a responsible financial situation between himself and the users and avoid the bad incentive structures that "free" services have ("Free"…

I think that makes a whole lot of sense. The actual post explains it wonderfully: >Most other companies are financially supported by venture capital, in the form of large investments from a small number of people. If you use their services for free, or even if you pay the modest fees for their paid plans, they are not incentivized to serve your needs first. They are beholden to their investors, and at their behest, t…

Well Codeberg is also just an German association. Everyone can become a member and the member dues finance the server costs

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Post by albert180 »

drstewart wrote: post #37
alias_neo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not clear (as a European) which part of your code-hosting could be risky in this regard? There's many privacy and other laws that affect myself and my neighbours in Europe that concern me, but hate speech has never been one of them. Perhaps wherever you're from you draw lines differently to how we do it in Europe, with regards to what is socially and morally acceptable to say? I should add that we also don't have…

>Perhaps wherever you're from you draw lines differently to how we do it in Europe, with regards to what is socially and morally acceptable to say? Maybe that's why he has serious concerns? Funny how it's always valid for Europeans to have concerns about America and its differences, but when it's the other way around it's a barrage of "How dare you?!" (just look at the responses to OPs concerns).

Well if you are not worshipping Nazis or trying to push hate against minorities you shouldn't run into problems. But I'm quite sure most other services in the states wouldn't tolerate such things too
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