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The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by dymk »

tomrod wrote: post #12
addicted wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole story is just disgraceful. And while there are definitely understandable concerns about interviewing a basically imprisoned population, 1. the fact that only a handful of prisoners opted to speak while the rest declined shows that they did have at least some degree of choice, and 2. the viewer can balance what the documentary presents against the circumstances in which it was created. Considering the actua…

I'd heard the interview subjects were interviewed under false pretenses. Is this not the case?

Where'd you hear that?

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by dnissley »

tomrod wrote: post #12
addicted wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole story is just disgraceful. And while there are definitely understandable concerns about interviewing a basically imprisoned population, 1. the fact that only a handful of prisoners opted to speak while the rest declined shows that they did have at least some degree of choice, and 2. the viewer can balance what the documentary presents against the circumstances in which it was created. Considering the actua…

I'd heard the interview subjects were interviewed under false pretenses. Is this not the case?

Where did you hear that?

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by epivosism »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #31
Animats wrote: post #4

Their GoFundMe is doing great. Goal achieved.[1] 75% on Rotten Tomatoes. Selected for Sundance. [1] https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-unredacted-jihad-rehab

I heard about this first from Sam Harris’ podcast. Then went to the go fund me, and Harris gave $25k! I’m not sure why she doesn’t run a kick starter as well. I’d pay to get a digital download of the movie.

Smaker is a great interviewee - she runs the show, a real truth seeker and explorer

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by kuramitropolis »

seibelj wrote: post #20

The safest play is to create all art as metaphor, just as the writers of great Russian literature did. You can’t be too plain spoken because that opens you up to attack by the mob. Rather, hide your meaning and the censors won’t feel it necessary to ban.

The censors' safe play is also well known:

Introduce mandatory "what did the author mean" classes in schools, where children write down the one true interpretation of a corpus of sanctioned texts from preferably >100 years ago, under dictation, for many years; until they are completely incapable of approaching a work of art to understand it for themselves.

It's not 100% effective, but the remaining few percent end up mentally ill, so it's a win-win!

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by md2020 »

whymauri wrote: post #5

Similar article from the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/25/us/sundance-jihad-rehab-m... With a lot less whining about 'the woke mob'.

You need to realize that mobs are a real thing and in this case, they ruined a woman’s career for completely constructed, ridiculous reasons. This kind of behavior is disgusting. I don’t know why you describe this article as “whining”. This person had nearly a decade of her life’s work torn apart by people who only see the world through the lens of power and oppression, and whose only goals are to endlessly virtue signal to one another while creating nothing of value themselves.

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by anonporridge »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #19

3h podcast with Meg Smaker on the Waking Up podcast: https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/300...

Tangentially related is the recently rebroadcasted episode with Yasmine Mohammed, who wrote the book "Unveiled: How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam". Related to the woke mob losing it's sanity when it comes to Islam and specifically relevant to the recent Iranian protests.

Incredibly sad, but fantastic interview.

https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/298...

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Post by happyopossum »

tims33 wrote: post #16

Terrible story. This should not have happened to this film. I do not know what has happened to a country which has free speech and press enshrined in it's constitution. It is also sad that the National Review which paints itself as this bastion of objectivity publishes such breathless headlines.

Wait a sec - so the story is terrible, but the headline shouldn’t point that out?

Re: The Cancellation of ‘Jihad Rehab’

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Post by llanowarelves »

registeredcorn wrote: post #17

The adulation towards voluntary segregation disturbs me. I can't help but explain this queer desire as some sort of side effect of the various "bans" against discrimination. As best I can tell, regardless of circumstance or intent, there is a fundamental hunger for sameness, and the exclusion of otherness. I don't see that as good or bad, but merely a confusion of ideas counter to everything the world seems to bombar…

Freedom of association is a freedom many (most?) people like and practice all the time, by peacefully self-sorting (interests, beliefs, consumption choices, moving to new place). "The Big Sort" etc.

Though it does seem almost schizophrenic that everyone preaches the opposite as the highest virtue, while doing it.

Some groups and even countries do it more than others.

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