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The winds don't seem to be blowing in the direction of true autonomous driving through. The hype cycle seems to have died down and the sense of reality is setting in.
Capitulation on “full self driving” is here. Most manufacturers will be lucky to get level 3 automation by the end of the decade
Given the number of times I've seen a reported, verified bug in OS X be "fixed" by hiding the bug from the public tracker and marking it "will not fix," I would have a hard time ever trusting a car made by Apple. Apple also makes their products to be disposable, seemingly as part of the culture, while a well-made electric car can run to a million miles over 50+ years. That's a very different build philosophy. The key…
The latest iPhone reversed course on the disposability piece a little bit, making it arguably the most repairable iPhone ever.
So I've always wondered if Apple actually building a 'car' was ever really the goal. It seems like a skunkworks where they try crazy things and then incorporate into Carplay. Future seems to be ever expanding Carplay support. I use it and probably would not buy another car that did not have it integrated. I imagine car manufacturers are somewhat tired of always building HUDs and in vehicle control systems. So gradual…
Seeing how boring Carplay has been so far I’d have my doubts about skunkworks. That said it makes sense they might be working on exclusive operating system of sorts. The way car systems (100s of suppliers and their implementation) work nowadays is insane.
It just could be that. But that would depend on the car manufacturers giving up on their own software so easily and it would be a completely new strategy for Apple. They love to control the whole stack. Even in cases, where they entered a market with a collaboration - the early iPod Phones come to my mind - they later switched to their own product.
Also, the rumor about an Apple car does keep coming back. And they spend a lot of money on what ever they are doing. So while the play on just Car Play might be strong, they do have something brewing in case car manufacturers don't just jump onto it. My favorite theory though is: they are building something which will be a "car" but as different from current cars as the iPhone was from mobile phones of its day and age. I would be really curious to see that.
A suggestion for Apple. 1. Apple is worth $2.44 trillion USD; pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines. 2. Establish Apple HQ facilities in the Philippines and employ the vast majority of the country's talented software engineers there. 3. Take advantage of the cheap labour, low costs, and high standard of living to ride the wave of unending profit. This is how you turn things around and switch…
Given the number of times I've seen a reported, verified bug in OS X be "fixed" by hiding the bug from the public tracker and marking it "will not fix," I would have a hard time ever trusting a car made by Apple. Apple also makes their products to be disposable, seemingly as part of the culture, while a well-made electric car can run to a million miles over 50+ years. That's a very different build philosophy. The key…
Source? Apple currently makes the longest lasting consumer devices with the longest lasting software support, so not sure how one can conclude longevity is not in their build “philosophy”.
>I would imagine an Apple car that only supports Apple Maps, Apple Music/Podcasts, and Siri and will only connect to iOS devices...and that costs twice as much as the Tesla for the base model, and more if you want a reasonable range. Pandora? Spotify? Waze? Meh. Sorry. Oh, and don't forget monthly fees for navigation; probably more like the $36/month of the Audi EV than the free navigation for the Tesla.
Why? All of those apps are usable in every Apple device’s OS today, including Carplay. And Apple Maps has had free navigation since inception.
Also, I can get into almost any recent car and plug in my iPhone or Android phone and have access to CarPlay and Android Auto, and get access to a ton of apps, except in a Tesla. Seems like Tesla is being the more restrictive party here.
What I see is a career of failures, at Apple, at Be, at Palm, JLG was dealt good hands and some bad hands but played each indifferently. Did I miss something important ?
A suggestion for Apple. 1. Apple is worth $2.44 trillion USD; pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines. 2. Establish Apple HQ facilities in the Philippines and employ the vast majority of the country's talented software engineers there. 3. Take advantage of the cheap labour, low costs, and high standard of living to ride the wave of unending profit. This is how you turn things around and switch…
> pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines. Why do this?
A full Apple Car has always seemed unrealistic to me. Cars are a fundamentally different industry then consumer electronics and software. Apple would be starting from scratch, and facing a lot of entrenched competition with huge budgets and infrastructure. And for what? What could Apple do that GM, Toyota, or Tesla couldn't? Maybe a better UX for the dashboard. And while many car UXs are absolutely terrible, improvin…
People here are delusional when they go oh, Apple can make a better Carplay integration and easily outsell Ford and Tesla.
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They already showed off giant carplay updates at WWDC this year. They showed a car where the entire dash was a giant wide screen, where it even handled the speedometer, odometer, fuel level, etc https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/09/apples-2023-carpl...
I'd rather see standard APIs and hardware mounting systems that let me slot in different hardware to upgrade my cars software + screens + CPU + etc. without having to buy a new car