Anything can happen so these could also be wildly successful items in our future
A phone from Mercedes
A CPU from Ferrari
Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
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Re: Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
#32Given the number of times I've seen a reported, verified bug in OS X be "fixed" by hiding the bug from the public tracker and marking it "will not fix," I would have a hard time ever trusting a car made by Apple. Apple also makes their products to be disposable, seemingly as part of the culture, while a well-made electric car can run to a million miles over 50+ years. That's a very different build philosophy. The key…
That would not sell.
I didn't buy a macbook because it had Apple logo on it, I bought it because of the M1 chip that was 1 generation ahead of anybody else. Similarly, I bought an iPhone mini because its form factor worked very well for me.
If Apple introduced a VR headset I can already tell you that I won't buy it. If their car is inferior to others on the market then I won't buy it. I think most Apple consumer falls in the same camp as me.
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#33Does anyone really think Apple is building a car? I don't and I never did. It makes no sense. It's not an industry one can just "switch into." The capital requirements for owning a car factory are ridiculous and it's not something you can outsource. There is zero crossover between consumer entertainment devices and the car business, as evidenced by the poor state of tech in cars! This is not something Apple can fix by making cars.
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#34A suggestion for Apple. 1. Apple is worth $2.44 trillion USD; pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines. 2. Establish Apple HQ facilities in the Philippines and employ the vast majority of the country's talented software engineers there. 3. Take advantage of the cheap labour, low costs, and high standard of living to ride the wave of unending profit. This is how you turn things around and switch…
It's a fun thought experiment, I'm wondering though, what problem would that solve?
Re: Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
#35Given the number of times I've seen a reported, verified bug in OS X be "fixed" by hiding the bug from the public tracker and marking it "will not fix," I would have a hard time ever trusting a car made by Apple. Apple also makes their products to be disposable, seemingly as part of the culture, while a well-made electric car can run to a million miles over 50+ years. That's a very different build philosophy. The key…
Fit and finish has absolutely collapsed in recent Apple software. Glitches and bugs all over the place. It's almost enough to tempt one to see if this really is, finally, the year of Linux of the desktop. Almost.
I would disagree about Apple making products to be disposable, though! I've found Apple hardware to be incredibly long lasting. Their phones, ipads, and iphones all last years and years and years in my experience.
Re: Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
#36A suggestion for Apple. 1. Apple is worth $2.44 trillion USD; pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines. 2. Establish Apple HQ facilities in the Philippines and employ the vast majority of the country's talented software engineers there. 3. Take advantage of the cheap labour, low costs, and high standard of living to ride the wave of unending profit. This is how you turn things around and switch…
> pay off the whole $240 billion USD debt owed by the Philippines.
Why do this?
Re: Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
#37A full Apple Car has always seemed unrealistic to me. Cars are a fundamentally different industry then consumer electronics and software. Apple would be starting from scratch, and facing a lot of entrenched competition with huge budgets and infrastructure. And for what? What could Apple do that GM, Toyota, or Tesla couldn't? Maybe a better UX for the dashboard. And while many car UXs are absolutely terrible, improvin…
As if Apple is just a tiny little startup looking for VC funds to get into the automotive industry and couldn't possibly compete with Ford.
>And for what?
Control over the entire driving experience. Just like they are obsessed with controlling the experience of a phone or a tablet and refuse to relegate aspects to partners.
>improving them isn't some insurmountable challenge for existing manufacturers
You say this but yet car manufacturers continue refusing to do so. It's been years already and sluggish screens are still normal, a bunch of weirdly placed knobs that offer no substantial tactile feedback, wheels that are horrible to hold, here are 3 different screens for some ungodly reason, and list goes on. Now this doesn't mean Apple will get everything right, but their attention to detail isn't something to overlook here and it's a huge advantage in a field where manufacturers have largely gone stagnant.
Apple can expand carplay while also manufacturing their own car. Actually, that would be one of the greatest forms of advertising their own car. Here's the pure experience, whereas you're using something tainted by GM.
To note, I'm not convinced the Apple Car will happen, but I'm frankly confused by people with the perspective that they have no leverage and nothing to offer here. A car with the Apple brand and nothing new will likely push more units than several new carmakers.
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#38What if Apple made a 1500 dollar electric Mini (car)?
Might just work.
I have seen some comments here saying that all the money in the world can't buy you a better mobile phone. If Apple is able to generalize that to another product class, the world might really change for the better.
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#39Disney said no to buying Teitter because it would be a bad look, is a chaotic & messy property to acquire. It would be hard to manage & sully their clean image.
Associating yourself with automobiles doesnt feel exactly the same, but there's a similar jist to me. Cars have some very obvious bad impact on this world. Supporting & selling them is a pain. Trying to keep yourself as a loved respected treasured company would be much more difficult, quite likely impossible.
Re: Apple Car: Bad Idea After All
#40A full Apple Car has always seemed unrealistic to me. Cars are a fundamentally different industry then consumer electronics and software. Apple would be starting from scratch, and facing a lot of entrenched competition with huge budgets and infrastructure. And for what? What could Apple do that GM, Toyota, or Tesla couldn't? Maybe a better UX for the dashboard. And while many car UXs are absolutely terrible, improvin…
They already showed off giant carplay updates at WWDC this year. They showed a car where the entire dash was a giant wide screen, where it even handled the speedometer, odometer, fuel level, etc https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/06/09/apples-2023-carpl...
I'd rather see standard APIs and hardware mounting systems that let me slot in different hardware to upgrade my cars software + screens + CPU + etc. without having to buy a new car