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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by naravara »

groffee wrote: post #35
yalogin wrote: post #8

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It’s not that easy. This is life and death for Facebook. TikTok is really taking over and is a force. It’s also a Chinese company and so they can’t buy it. They are forced to compete, either they do this or become fully irrelevant

Facebook is dying, but not because of TikTok. Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook. If they gave what's left of their userbase what they actually wanted (chronological feed, seeing friends posts, not seeing spam, more ways to interact (bring back pets, gifts, superpokes etc)) they'd do ok. It doesn't help that their core code is a steaming pile of bloated dung that doesn't seem to be tested by anyone…

When I started using Facebook it wasn't a newsfeed, it was just a personal homepage with a photo album and a bulletin board attached.

I'd love to have something like that again that everyone uses, but everything is about goosing the influencer economy now rather than letting me socialize.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by anothernewdude »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

I'm already there for McDonalds. No idea how to order what I want from those machines.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by msbarnett »

chitowneats wrote: post #30
tomlin wrote: post #24

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> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

Creole language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by citizenkeen »

rvz wrote: post #27
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #13

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Facebook is a sinking ship. It's hard to turn that around. It seems like it would've been easier to go after TikTok with Instagram - which is basically the same product, growing, and still has some brand value.

Meta already knew Facebook would sink someday. As they have Instagram, they don't care and Meta will be around for another 10 years to extract more from Instagram and their other unused platforms. I'd expect the hype and growth around TikTok to peak once their parent company IPOs, as more corporations, advertisers, mainstream media accounts, move in to the platform to ruin it just like they did with the rest of the o…

Why would ByteDance IPO?

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by QuarterReptile »

chitowneats wrote: post #30
tomlin wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

'creole' has developed a linguistic meaning that parallels the ethnic one you may be interpreting.

From Wikipedia: a stable natural language that develops from the simplifying and mixing of different languages into a new one within a fairly brief period of time: often, a pidgin evolved into a full-fledged language.

I still found the comment to be a bit of a stretch with that usage.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by maxfurman »

next_xibalba wrote: post #40
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

> the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Wouldn't a consequence of this be that Facebook would be losing users in drovers? And yet the data seem to disagree. This is a type of take that feels very "inside baseball" and fueled more by the feelings of its proponents than any kind of empiricism.

They just posted their first net user loss - so maybe not "in droves" but their username is certainly declining and will continue to do so without drastic change

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by mrcartmeneses »

chitowneats wrote: post #30
tomlin wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> TikTok is really taking over and is a force. So that means what? That other social medias can't exist unless they are on the absolute top? Sounds like a race to the bottom, patched up with investor creole language bullshit.

Sorry, why is creole being referenced here? Is this an inside joke/reference I'm not familiar with? Is it a typo? Edit: Thank you all for the replies. I am aware of and respectful of the literal definition. The usage on the comment I responded to strikes me as either antiquated, inaccurate, or a typo.

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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by UncleEntity »

liberia wrote: post #28

All the platforms have their own TikTok style mechanism now. YouTube has Shorts, Facebook has its Reels feature which is tightly integrated with Instagram and you need an Instagram account to engage with Reels on Facebook, which is a bit of a growth hacker dark pattern. For now, Reels is not interspersed with ADs which is refreshing, but that could all change. The whole vertical video craze is a weird one, and one I’…

> I want the slow web back where I can chew on long form content and mull over large pieces of text and long winded podcasts…

It is what you make it, really.

I watch YouTubers who make long videos, go deep diving on subjects which have no real use in my daily life and have very, very few apps on my phone — all but one are something which makes my life easier than not having it and the exception is because I want to buy a condo.

No Instagrams, Facebooks, TikToks, Twitters, nothing.

I don’t even feel I’m missing out on anything worthwhile either.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by naravara »

philistine wrote: post #22
ardit33 wrote: post #7

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Yeah, apple went from selling personal computers to iPods, phones and headphones, where they make most of the money.... Would you have said the same for Apple back in 2007? Ps. Restaurants change menus all the time.

Aside from iPods, which they have wisely cannibalized themselves with the iPhone, Apple still sells all those items, with headphones a Fortune 500 company all on its own. It's not that Apple changed its menu, it expanded it.

Apple brought the sensibilities that made their computers interesting to other consumer electronics. Facebook seems to be doing the opposite and trying to mimic whatever's popular. The only "Facebook" sensibility they ever bring to the table seems to be figuring out ways to over-optimize and over-monetize until the golden-egg-laying-goose dies.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by next_xibalba »

maxfurman wrote: post #46
next_xibalba wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Wouldn't a consequence of this be that Facebook would be losing users in drovers? And yet the data seem to disagree. This is a type of take that feels very "inside baseball" and fueled more by the feelings of its proponents than any kind of empiricism.

They just posted their first net user loss - so maybe not "in droves" but their username is certainly declining and will continue to do so without drastic change

Where are you getting this information? AFAIK, 2Q22 earnings (and metrics) are released tomorrow. The whispers I've heard are that any loss of M/DAU is contained to Europe and is caused by Russia going offline.
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