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Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

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Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

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Post by babypuncher »

breunigs wrote: post #30

On a related note, you can email Microsoft to add your domain to the "needs Edge" list: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform... If you try to open a host from that list in IE11, it will open in Edge instead. The process really is just sending them an email, so I did it for my personal site which still received occasional IE11 traffic from "yesteryear's megacorp" IP ranges. I don't have enough…

I prefer to let IE11 users just sit there wondering why the webpage is not working.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#42

Post by babypuncher »

dane-pgp wrote: post #2

As the linked FAQ states: "For supported operating systems, Internet Explorer 11 will continue receiving security updates and technical support for the lifecycle of the Windows version on which it is installed." and sadly IE11 came bundled with even Windows Server 2022, so if you're creating a website for users who spend all their time administrating Windows servers, you still have to support IE11...

That is a stretch; Windows Server 2022 includes Edge. And any Server 2022 user who goes out of their way to make IE11 the default should probably be fired.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

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Post by iggldiggl »

Out of IE, Firefox and Chrome (and presumably also Safari, given its shared history with Chrome, but I can't test it), curiously enough IE(11) was the only one [1] to allow properly selecting and copying generated content, i.e. text added via the CSS "quotes:" or "content:" properties.

Firefox/Gecko at least does a workaround for handling quotation marks (though it is rather hacky, because it always copies them as a standard ASCII double quotation mark instead of whatever typographically more appropriate character the page might actually be using, and it always adds both opening and closing quotation marks even if the selection only straddles one of them), but gives up for free-form text added via "content:", and Blink and presumably also Webkit don't handle that kind of content at all.

[1] I've already forgotten how the old Edge based on EdgeHTML handled that scenario.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#45

Post by saratogacx »

MBCook wrote: post #27
rsstack wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they would also have Edge installed in Windows Server 2022. It's a very small population that has a trivial workaround: use the _default_ default browser that came with the server operating system.

Except that new browser won’t support Active-X or Java applets. Yes those still exist. Yes they are needed. Yes I have to support them. Pity me.

Edge has an IE mode which is essentially hosting a trident control in an edge host so you can still stop using iexplore.exe and use this as your exception case.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/edge-ie-mode

We've tested this at my company that hasn't finished getting rid of java applets and it is taking place of IE until we're done with migrating away from them.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#46

Post by ratww »

toast0 wrote: post #14
tims33 wrote: post #3

Great news! What is the next big piece of software that needs to be retired to make the Internet a better place?

Outlook/Exchange.

Outlook still used IE11 for some of its functionality up to Office 2021, until Microsoft recently patched it to use Edge. 2013 to 2019 still use IE11 for rendering some functionality inside Outlook. And of course MS Word (!) for rendering emails.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#47

Post by ratww »

babypuncher wrote: post #42
dane-pgp wrote: post #2

As the linked FAQ states: "For supported operating systems, Internet Explorer 11 will continue receiving security updates and technical support for the lifecycle of the Windows version on which it is installed." and sadly IE11 came bundled with even Windows Server 2022, so if you're creating a website for users who spend all their time administrating Windows servers, you still have to support IE11...

That is a stretch; Windows Server 2022 includes Edge. And any Server 2022 user who goes out of their way to make IE11 the default should probably be fired.

Yep. We have a Window Server 2022 VM for testing sites in IE11 (we're in a Microsoft partnership thing so we need IE11 support) and after some recent updates it's been a pain in the ass to use IE even on purpose. Happy to not need it anymore.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#48

Post by MBCook »

saratogacx wrote: post #45
MBCook wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that new browser won’t support Active-X or Java applets. Yes those still exist. Yes they are needed. Yes I have to support them. Pity me.

Edge has an IE mode which is essentially hosting a trident control in an edge host so you can still stop using iexplore.exe and use this as your exception case. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/edge-ie-mode We've tested this at my company that hasn't finished getting rid of java applets and it is taking place of IE until we're done with migrating away from them.

We’ve tested that too. I’m pushing to just fix the core issue and get off the applet but we know that’s available to us in the meantime.

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#49

Post by dane-pgp »

babypuncher wrote: post #41
breunigs wrote: post #30

On a related note, you can email Microsoft to add your domain to the "needs Edge" list: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform... If you try to open a host from that list in IE11, it will open in Edge instead. The process really is just sending them an email, so I did it for my personal site which still received occasional IE11 traffic from "yesteryear's megacorp" IP ranges. I don't have enough…

I prefer to let IE11 users just sit there wondering why the webpage is not working.

Don't you think that's a bit cruel, babypuncher?

Re: Official IE11 end-of-life in 2 days

#50

Post by _-david-_ »

dane-pgp wrote: post #2

As the linked FAQ states: "For supported operating systems, Internet Explorer 11 will continue receiving security updates and technical support for the lifecycle of the Windows version on which it is installed." and sadly IE11 came bundled with even Windows Server 2022, so if you're creating a website for users who spend all their time administrating Windows servers, you still have to support IE11...

Do people browse the internet on their servers? What exactly is the use case?
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