primo.so sounds like what you’re describing. It’s a FOSS low-code site builder that lets you build/publish websites built from HTML/CSS/JS (Svelte actually, but close)
Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
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Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#42Yes. We see lots of this on Glitch. From remixes of Heardle (the "name that tune" remix of Wordle) to more advanced apps that use Spotify's API to track how many streams different kpop groups are getting, to silly meme sites and personal pages, there are hundreds of thousands of apps and sites being built by Gen Z. It's an undersung trend because we (intentionally) don't have an algorithmic feed to amplify them into…
> we (intentionally) don't have an algorithmic feed to amplify them into influencers
I’m curious why not. That’s always something that I’ve found is missing on glitch and just seems like something you forgot to implement. I want to see what’s popular, and more importantly, I want to give credit where credit is due - to their creators. That some become popular is just one of those things.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#43All my friends built customized MySpace pages back in the day, but none of them are coders now. It gave you just enough tools to make a really interesting profile, but you would quickly hit a ceiling. During the same period, I was learning HTML using Dreamweaver and Arachnophilia (a combination of WYSIWYG and IDE). So I disagree w/the premise, even if there may have been some people that kept going, I doubt that it w…
This is how I got into programming around 2005/2006. Such a fun time!
Last I checked some kid created a MySpace clone to the original and it looks great
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#44Not a site, but it may be worth a mention anyway. Minecraft has done an incredible job getting the younger generation into coding. Creating your own server starts off fairly straightforward, but gets very technical very quickly if you allow it to. From dealing with and editing all the files needed, setting up databases needed by some plugins, setting up websites, communities and shops for your server, all the way to…
I wonder if this will result in a demographic shift. I would hypothesize, though I have no immediate data to back it up, that the set of those who play Minecraft isn't the same as the set of those who use social media. While plenty would be in both, I doubt the overall demographics are the same. I also suspect the level of technicality scaling and the type of scaling is different as well, with minecraft server hostin…
> those who use social media
This depends very much on what you define as "social media". It sounds like you see social media as a distinct "thing", with a distinct demographic - it is not. Those who use Facebook don't use TikTok & vice versa. Is Twitch social media? Is Minecraft social media?
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#45Not a site, but it may be worth a mention anyway. Minecraft has done an incredible job getting the younger generation into coding. Creating your own server starts off fairly straightforward, but gets very technical very quickly if you allow it to. From dealing with and editing all the files needed, setting up databases needed by some plugins, setting up websites, communities and shops for your server, all the way to…
I wonder if this will result in a demographic shift. I would hypothesize, though I have no immediate data to back it up, that the set of those who play Minecraft isn't the same as the set of those who use social media. While plenty would be in both, I doubt the overall demographics are the same. I also suspect the level of technicality scaling and the type of scaling is different as well, with minecraft server hostin…
> the set of those who play Minecraft isn't the same as the set of those who use social media
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Minecraft is one of the biggest games in the world. To an approximation, everyone uses some kind of social media (whether it's facebook, instagram, snapchat, tiktok, twitter, reddit, etc). There would be an extremely large, close to 100%, overlap of "people that play minecraft" and "people who consume social media".
Playing Minecraft itself has an incredibly wide level of technical scaling, from 'just' building pretty buildings in creative, through to all the pretty advanced redstone circuitry. I'm sure you've seen all the giant functioning CPU builds made from "off the shelf" minecraft blocks?
Going further into the "developing" against Minecraft, people get into coding/hacking at Java mods, or creating texture packs (which can get deep into things like JSON definitions for biome lighting/fog configurations), server administration, or 3D modelling for creating custom mob in Blockbench www.blockbench.net
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#46Minecraft, Discord bots, etc. have already been mentioned; I will put in a plug for Cheat Engine and piracy. Much more dangerous and less ethical toys, but still highly educational. I learned almost 100% of my pre-college networking knowledge from BitTorrent. Cheat Engine has a very high learning curve but I'm sure it has acted as a gateway to other kinds of exploitation for other people. Although, I think with the rise of kernel Anti-Cheat this is a dying practice.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#47Not a site, but it may be worth a mention anyway. Minecraft has done an incredible job getting the younger generation into coding. Creating your own server starts off fairly straightforward, but gets very technical very quickly if you allow it to. From dealing with and editing all the files needed, setting up databases needed by some plugins, setting up websites, communities and shops for your server, all the way to…
my programming career started when my friend convinced me to help him build a minimal redstone calculator
Can anyone suggest redstone resources? I tried to learn computer architecture, logic gates etc but found it overwhelming, maybe making a simple cpu in redstone would be more approachable.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
my programming career started when my friend convinced me to help him build a minimal redstone calculator
Can anyone suggest redstone resources? I tried to learn computer architecture, logic gates etc but found it overwhelming, maybe making a simple cpu in redstone would be more approachable.
The nand2tetris course is a better idea than doing it in redstone. A lot of redstone logic relies on strange bugs in Minecraft, so you'd quickly have to learn and memorize these quirks instead of the fundamentals. You can also try playing nandgame.com.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#49Yes. We see lots of this on Glitch. From remixes of Heardle (the "name that tune" remix of Wordle) to more advanced apps that use Spotify's API to track how many streams different kpop groups are getting, to silly meme sites and personal pages, there are hundreds of thousands of apps and sites being built by Gen Z. It's an undersung trend because we (intentionally) don't have an algorithmic feed to amplify them into…
> we (intentionally) don't have an algorithmic feed to amplify them into influencers I’m curious why not. That’s always something that I’ve found is missing on glitch and just seems like something you forgot to implement. I want to see what’s popular, and more importantly, I want to give credit where credit is due - to their creators. That some become popular is just one of those things.
For better or worse, Khan Academy has a feed of “hot” coding projects people have made with their JS-based editor.
For the most part, it inspires and motivates learners to create better projects, with the promise of recognition for their work. There’s a community culture where there are certain programmers are “famous” among their peers for consistently creating good programs.
The only problem is that the few adult moderations that KA contracts have a poor understanding of this culture. Curating a community at all is difficult, and KA’s approach is limited to removing offensive or rude content, and otherwise letting the users run free.
I have many stories I could tell as a gen Z who learned programming from KA’s Computer Programing section (remember, gen z is high school and college students these days). But the point is that you can’t add an algorithmic feed and let the users free. You have a responsibility to moderate that space, and I don’t blame Glitch for not wanting to deal with that.
Re: Ask HN: Is there a site popular with Gen Z where users can write HTML and CSS?
#50Are there any GenZ people on here that can provide some illumination? How'd you get into coding?
Just made an account to reply, I usually lurk.
I was born in 2000, and I think my experience is going to vastly differ from GenZ kids born even a couple of years after me (say > ~2003). When I was growing up Facebook was new, people would be surprised if I (as a kid) didn't have facebook or if my parents didn't have one. My parents didn't let me have one anyway. I spent time playing flash games, googling "how to hack with cmd" (didn't learn anything). Long story short I spent a lot of time on the internet (and Minecraft, but no modding). In 8th grade someone introduced me to Python and I picked up programming fast. I also read a lot of books as a kid. I think not having access to the super centralized internet we have today helped (tiktok, instagram, etc). I think having those probably limits creativity in the sense that it stops your mind from wandering. Not sure I really answered your question lol.