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The wholesale electricity price in the EU is calculated the same everywhere as far as I know. It's the cost for the most expensive energy source that was needed to meet demand.
Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
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Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#42Real time data for France electricity generation:
https://www.rte-france.com/en/eco2mix
Import/exports are here:
https://www.rte-france.com/en/eco2mix/cross-border-electrici...
Yesterday France imported between 6 and 10 GW, a lot from Germany
Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Now for some extra fun, overlay this with graphs over CO2 emissions. Some other fun: Overlay this with a graph of nuclear waste production.
It's stupid to fret about nuclear waste. All plants, worldwide over all human history, for 20% of the power production of the entire planet, 100% green, have produced less than one half of one football field of barrels. We can stop climate change on one field of barrels every 31 years Thanks to mining byproducts, nuclear produces less and lower level radioactive waste than solar or wind Zero humans in history have di…
In the meantime, a barebones crew operates Chernobyl infrastructure, while the sacrophagus was shelled by Russian troops.
Europes nuclear power Zaporizhzhia plant is surrounded by Russian troops and sustained damage:
> At 11:28pm local time on the 3 March 2022, a column of 10 Russian armored vehicles and two tanks cautiously approached the Power Plant.[18][19][20] The action commenced at 12:48am on the 4 March when Ukraine forces fired anti tank missiles and Russian forces responded with a variety of weapons, including rocket-propelled grenades.[19] During approximately two hours of heavy fighting a fire broke out in a training facility outside of the main complex, which was extinguished by 6:20am,[21][22] though other sections surrounding the plant sustained damage.
Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
To put some numbers on the table, in 2018 (I could not find more recent data) the values of CO2 emissions in metric tons per capita were as follows:[1] France 5.0 Germany 9.1 For comparison: India 1.9 EU 8.6 China 8.0 Japan 9.4 Russia 12.1 United States 16.1 Canada 16.1 Australia 16.8 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...
Why is Australia so high? I doubt they need much heating, but is cooling so expensive?
Having a squiz at the first page of results on that question, seems like it’s a per capita thing of being a large country with few people. Also, “including exports”, which means all the coal etc and thing they export to China etc is being counted. I don’t want to say it’s an accounting trick but it feels like an accounting trick. 7% of global fossil fuel exports counted against 0.3% of the worlds population (8bill vs 27mill). Is it also counted against the importing country when they use it? Because that feels like double counting.
Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's stupid to fret about nuclear waste. All plants, worldwide over all human history, for 20% of the power production of the entire planet, 100% green, have produced less than one half of one football field of barrels. We can stop climate change on one field of barrels every 31 years Thanks to mining byproducts, nuclear produces less and lower level radioactive waste than solar or wind Zero humans in history have di…
In the meantime, a barebones crew operates Chernobyl infrastructure, while the sacrophagus was shelled by Russian troops. Europes nuclear power Zaporizhzhia plant is surrounded by Russian troops and sustained damage: > At 11:28pm local time on the 3 March 2022, a column of 10 Russian armored vehicles and two tanks cautiously approached the Power Plant.[18][19][20] The action commenced at 12:48am on the 4 March when U…
Still better than losing half of the biosphere due to climate change.
Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#46Would this affect the upcoming Presidential election?
Re: Exchange electricity prices in France go through the roof
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Fukushima cleanup, unique in history and resulting from radically unlikely natural disasters, cost less than half what the fuel it replaced that decade would have This is without considering the cost of climate change or all those prevented deaths
Every nuclear disaster is unique yet nobody is willing to bet on any of them being the last. Fukushima was also unique in that it caused coal usage to skyrocket in Japan - a problem Germany is not currently suffering from. To me, the way to prove that something ISNT safe is to shout loudly about how safe it is and to absolutely refuse to shoulder the costs of anything going wrong. This is what the nuclear industry do…
> Every nuclear disaster is unique
No nuclear disaster in history has added up to a bad single bus accident.
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> and to absolutely refuse to shoulder the costs of anything going wrong. \n This is what the nuclear industry does
This is, of course, the exact opposite of true. Nuclear power is the only kind of power expected to carry full disaster insurance (not even dams, which have death counts in the six digits.)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very easy to accurately predict the building costs of a nuclear reactor. The overruns you're talking about come from politicians showing up halfway through the project and changing the rules to show their voters that they are involved
In France the new nuclear reactors have been plagued by hardware issue, delays.. So no, it isn't 'easy' to predict the building costs, it's easy only when you're replicating an already existing reactor and only if it was built recently!
> In France the new nuclear reactors have been plagued by hardware issue, delays
That's odd, can you show me some evidence of that?
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's stupid to fret about nuclear waste. All plants, worldwide over all human history, for 20% of the power production of the entire planet, 100% green, have produced less than one half of one football field of barrels. We can stop climate change on one field of barrels every 31 years Thanks to mining byproducts, nuclear produces less and lower level radioactive waste than solar or wind Zero humans in history have di…
In the meantime, a barebones crew operates Chernobyl infrastructure, while the sacrophagus was shelled by Russian troops. Europes nuclear power Zaporizhzhia plant is surrounded by Russian troops and sustained damage: > At 11:28pm local time on the 3 March 2022, a column of 10 Russian armored vehicles and two tanks cautiously approached the Power Plant.[18][19][20] The action commenced at 12:48am on the 4 March when U…
> In the meantime, a barebones crew operates Chernobyl infrastructure, while the sacrophagus was shelled by Russian troops.
and even under these conditions, once again, zero deaths
the point you're trying to make actually works against you
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is Australia so high? I doubt they need much heating, but is cooling so expensive?
Having a squiz at the first page of results on that question, seems like it’s a per capita thing of being a large country with few people. Also, “including exports”, which means all the coal etc and thing they export to China etc is being counted. I don’t want to say it’s an accounting trick but it feels like an accounting trick. 7% of global fossil fuel exports counted against 0.3% of the worlds population (8bill vs…
That doesn’t sound right. Then Saudi Arabia and Russia should be super high west with all the fossil fuels they produce and export…
As you say that’s double counting.