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Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels against Omicron ~37-fold

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Re: Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels against Omicron ~37-fold

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Post by gambiting »

thaufeki wrote: post #35
beervirus wrote: post #13

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Why? We get a flu booster every year, and that’s fine. I’m happy to get a shot every so often if it means I can go about my life like normal.

Why do people keep saying this? I have literally never received a flu shot, they have always been reserved for the sick and elderly Why not, instead of shots, do these pharmaceutical companies not prioritise developing an effective at home treatment for the symptoms of Covid-19? It's very hard to see light at the end of this tunnel, which appears to be becoming a booster merry-go-round.

>>Why do people keep saying this?

Because the population on HN is not homogeneus and different regions in the world approach the flu vaccine differently? In some countries it's completely free and it's normal to get it every year, and even in some countries where it isn't, there's only a nominal cost and usually the employer covers it - so most people get the flu shot too. Not a big deal at all.

>> they have always been reserved for the sick and elderly

See above. Maybe that's true where you live.

>> instead of shots, do these pharmaceutical companies not prioritise developing an effective at home treatment for the symptoms of Covid-19

Why not both? Treatment for symptoms is under development, as well as vaccine which you take with an inhaler at home. Or would you rather that they stopped the development of vaccines completely and focused just on the treatment of symptoms?

Re: Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels against Omicron ~37-fold

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Post by amznbyebyebye »

crate_barre wrote: post #15
beervirus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? We get a flu booster every year, and that’s fine. I’m happy to get a shot every so often if it means I can go about my life like normal.

You don’t lose your job for not getting the flu vaccine. Again, it’s an unprecedented situation and I’ll accept the mandate for the three shots, but this has to have an end at some point.

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Post by toolz »

zrail wrote: post #27
pixiemaster wrote: post #16

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in terms of covid hospitalisations overwhelming our hospitals: i‘m optimistic as well that this might not happen at scale. but in terms of a large part of society getting sick (level 3 still makes you stick in bed) at the same time - this will lead to worker shortage - i’m kind of neutral-pessimistic. in terms of longterm long covid effect on our demographic - i’m fearful. in terms of society getting their act togeth…

> in terms of covid hospitalisations overwhelming our hospitals: i‘m optimistic as well that this might not happen at scale. I see no reason for this optimism. Every hospital that I know of in SE Michigan has been over capacity for several weeks. We have gotten regular emails from both hospital systems in Ann Arbor begging everyone to get vaccinated.

This is inaccurate https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98159-5236...

Re: Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels against Omicron ~37-fold

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Post by NomeChomsky »

antocv wrote: post #38
NomeChomsky wrote: post #36

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Look at the data per age group and per sex, when looking at 0-99 all 3 sexes does not tell the full story since 65+ have totally different risks from covid-19 than 20-29.

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Post by rsfern »

nojito wrote: post #43
NomeChomsky wrote: post #36

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How is this a bombshell? VAERS data isn’t reliable and should not be used to determine adverse reactions.

This isn’t based on VAERS, it’s a uk study using NHS records.

Also I think OP’s summary is kind of misleading

Re: Moderna booster increased neutralizing antibody levels against Omicron ~37-fold

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Post by amznbyebyebye »

gambiting wrote: post #34
amznbyebyebye wrote: post #19

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Why is it three? Why can’t they make it effective with one vaccine? Hmm maybe because three vaccines is 3x the revenue they get vs. from one vaccine. They’re just not incentivized for our long term health and well being. It is a pure capitalism.

>>Why can’t they make it effective with one vaccine? There are actual technical and medical answers to this, but somehow I have a feeling you aren't interested in knowing them.

I am interested to know. I have worked with big pharma executives, and frankly they are probably less interested to know the answer to this than I am.
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