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Based on some of the damage that weapon did in the video, I don't expect that is non lethal by any means. That looks like deadly force to me.
Legally, deadly force. Practically, hell no. Not trusting my life to a metal disc with the same velocity as a BB pellet.
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#42I REALLY doubt the "Good stopping effect". That's the same as the flashlights with "intruder stopping" strobe. They claim 16J. Well, a typical - Germany Legal - Airsoft gun has 7.5J, so we're talking about toy-level of energy. Now, looking at some 9mm ammo, you have around 500-570J depending on type - Ball vs. Hollow Point. Yeah, it's very clear to me, what I want to use if I have to defend myself.
Comparing impact energy between a flat and a pointed object is meaningless. A five-year-old in a pillow fight will put substantially more than 16J into your body.
A pillow and a point of a stick can apply the same amount of force, with completely different effects.
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#44Yeah…sorry. If someone breaks into my house, they’re getting a bit more than 16J pointed their way.
Many Americans (uniformed or not) like yourself really do have a bloodlust about them. Just itching for the day when they can legally get away with shooting somebody. This discusion of de-escalation tactics (ridiculed by a US deligation) is rather enlightening. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/rcglza/us_delegat...
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#45I don't have a lot to say about the functionality or specifications here, but I feel like there's a new conceptual issue raised by non-lethal, or notionally non-lethal weapons. Constitutional arguments are about the right to self-defense. That's not necessarily the same as killing someone, and you don't necessarily have a right to killing in and of itself, but only as a means to an end for self-defense. I suppose it…
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#46Yeah…sorry. If someone breaks into my house, they’re getting a bit more than 16J pointed their way.
Many Americans (uniformed or not) like yourself really do have a bloodlust about them. Just itching for the day when they can legally get away with shooting somebody. This discusion of de-escalation tactics (ridiculed by a US deligation) is rather enlightening. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/rcglza/us_delegat...
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#48Yeah…sorry. If someone breaks into my house, they’re getting a bit more than 16J pointed their way.
Honestly if someone breaks into my house they'll be getting a cup of tea and a blanket. Robbery must be an awful way to make a living. They're probably in a life of abuse and addiction. Yes, I'm a total psycho, I already know this.
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#49Yeah…sorry. If someone breaks into my house, they’re getting a bit more than 16J pointed their way.
Honestly if someone breaks into my house they'll be getting a cup of tea and a blanket. Robbery must be an awful way to make a living. They're probably in a life of abuse and addiction. Yes, I'm a total psycho, I already know this.
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#50> 3. Internet: it is combined with big data and it can be tracked during the whole process The site feels like satire. Some of the Q&A answers just make little sense. Also, they claim it's non-lethal. After the example videos, I cannot see how that is the case. It looks like it could easily shred through some stomach lining or nick an artery or completely blind someone.