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Re: E-Shotgun

#21

Consider me unimpressed. First, there just isn’t a ton of energy in that “round”. They’re claiming Second, the disk shape of the projectile means that it’s going to be impossible to aim effectively. That thing is going to have significant vertical dispersion even at very short ranges. It’s a toy.

| It's a toy. An extremely dangerous toy.

Not really. 16J is a slightly overpowered paintball gun.

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#22

I REALLY doubt the "Good stopping effect". That's the same as the flashlights with "intruder stopping" strobe. They claim 16J. Well, a typical - Germany Legal - Airsoft gun has 7.5J, so we're talking about toy-level of energy. Now, looking at some 9mm ammo, you have around 500-570J depending on type - Ball vs. Hollow Point. Yeah, it's very clear to me, what I want to use if I have to defend myself.

Comparing impact energy between a flat and a pointed object is meaningless.

A five-year-old in a pillow fight will put substantially more than 16J into your body.

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#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

| It's a toy. An extremely dangerous toy.

I suppose that’s fair. I’d argue it’s less dangerous than, for instance, a 5” racing quadcopter.

> I’d argue it’s less dangerous than, for instance, a 5” racing quadcopter.

Semi-related, as I looked into drones here again a bit (my last adventure was a self-build from 2011, different times): The EU thought so too, it defines the difference between toys (that you do not need to register nor have any license for) are those which develop no more than 79 joules of impact energy when dropping, which couples it automatically to the weight of the drone and the ceiling height you can/want to fly with it. The law assumes that you need to calculate at minimum 30 m of ceiling height, to avoid shops being able to sell 2.5 kg drones when you ensure while winking that you fly it at 1 m at max.

So the most common variants are 250 gr. which works out at 30 m allowed ceiling height you can fly with it, at least if you're not in a restricted flight zone, like some cities and naturally airports are.

https://www.easa.europa.eu/domains/civil-drones/drones-regul...

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#24

I REALLY doubt the "Good stopping effect". That's the same as the flashlights with "intruder stopping" strobe. They claim 16J. Well, a typical - Germany Legal - Airsoft gun has 7.5J, so we're talking about toy-level of energy. Now, looking at some 9mm ammo, you have around 500-570J depending on type - Ball vs. Hollow Point. Yeah, it's very clear to me, what I want to use if I have to defend myself.

A 50-100k lumen flashlight would be a better defense, cost less, and possibly be more fun (for night fishing, too!)

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#26
> 3. Internet: it is combined with big data and it can be tracked during the whole process

The site feels like satire. Some of the Q&A answers just make little sense.

Also, they claim it's non-lethal. After the example videos, I cannot see how that is the case. It looks like it could easily shred through some stomach lining or nick an artery or completely blind someone.

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#28
post #17

16 joules, or roughly four times the energy of a Nerf dart. The local meth-heads are still shaking in their boots but it isn't in fear of this toy.

When I googled the energy of a Nerf dart I saw 4 joules, but this is from a 200g Nerf dart in a hypothetical question. When I calculate it for a 1g Nerf dart at around 21m/s it comes out to 0.2205 joules

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#30

Yeah…sorry. If someone breaks into my house, they’re getting a bit more than 16J pointed their way.

Honestly if someone breaks into my house they'll be getting a cup of tea and a blanket. Robbery must be an awful way to make a living. They're probably in a life of abuse and addiction.

Yes, I'm a total psycho, I already know this.

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