This is so so so sad. I use firefox as my main browser and lockwise was so much useful when I needed to log into something on my phone. Very disappointing.
End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
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Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#42When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job? They've managed to lose almost all their market popularity, mobile Firefox share is almost nonexistent, they pay their executives extremely disproportionately compared to most nonprofits, they have expanded into countless failed side projects (Firefox OS, Firefox Send) and vestigial side projects they aren't good at (Pocket, Firefox Focus, Firefox Rea…
Not sure what you are writing regarding Firefox Send and Lockwise. They are/were good, or at least good for me.
They are decent - but they are undermining the development of the Firefox browser by consuming lots of precious time and money which is not what Firefox needs right now.
Remember that Mozilla get's 90%+ of its funding, not from donations, but from Google for being the default search engine. Firefox's market share is now ~4%, dangerously close to where Google might decide that the payout isn't worth it. And close enough where Google thinks they could stop payments without causing any antitrust ire because it's such a small percentage it doesn't make any business sense.
You would think Mozilla executives would take that as a sign that their funding and core product is at stake and they need to double-down on it. Instead, they fire engineering teams and spread into the many side projects in a desperate attempt at diversification that isn't working.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#43What does this mean for iOS Lockwise users who use it as a system-level password manager? Will we be able to use Firefox for the same purpose? I had to switch back to Safari from Firefox on iOS because the latter had so many issues and missing features by comparison. Lockwise was the only solution from a developer I trust for syncing passwords between Ubuntu and iOS, and iCloud passwords are unavailable on Linux. I r…
TFA answers your question.
Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what TFA stands for in this context. If you meant 2FA (two factor authentication), that doesn't solve the problem of managing passwords.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#44But to access the same functionality with Firefox in android I have to go into 3 levels of menus or I'm wrong. Very annoying ...
Installing a separate app and signing in on it sounds a lot more cumbersome
It is one time install, and signing in just after restart. used for autocomletion in apps. With just firefox I won't have that.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#45What does this mean for iOS Lockwise users who use it as a system-level password manager? Will we be able to use Firefox for the same purpose? I had to switch back to Safari from Firefox on iOS because the latter had so many issues and missing features by comparison. Lockwise was the only solution from a developer I trust for syncing passwords between Ubuntu and iOS, and iCloud passwords are unavailable on Linux. I r…
It looks like iOS Firefox will be updated to backfill this functionality: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/r0kpke/lockwise_is...
Thanks for looking out for us, Mozilla! :)
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#46For anyone looking to stay on an open source solution: Keepass databases, synced using whatever sync tool floats your boat (syncthing, Nextcloud, iCloud etc.)
On Android I used KeepassXC and syncthing.
After switching to iOS: Keepassium + NextCloud.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#47I am not happy about this. I like having the standalone Lockwise app on my Android phone as a password manager. When the app is discontinued, will I still be able to use autofill in other apps? And what about the apps where autofill doesn't work? Having to open my browser for every password I need to copy on my phone just seems clunky and stupid. I'm so fucking sick of Mozilla breaking their UX flows for every damn t…
Same. I use Lockwise on iOS. The tone of the email I've just received about this from Mozilla makes it sound as if they've done something wonderful and they're giving themselves a pat on the back which is even more maddening.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#48When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job? They've managed to lose almost all their market popularity, mobile Firefox share is almost nonexistent, they pay their executives extremely disproportionately compared to most nonprofits, they have expanded into countless failed side projects (Firefox OS, Firefox Send) and vestigial side projects they aren't good at (Pocket, Firefox Focus, Firefox Rea…
There is exactly zero chance of maintaining an up to date, reasonably fast and secure browser without a large, dedicated team of highly qualified developers. Good luck with forking... Mozilla has definitely failed with most of their side projects, many of them really redundant. And shutting them down is really bad for their reputation. But they also need to find some funding source that doesn't make them beholden to…
"But they also need to find some funding source that doesn't make them beholden to Google or Microsoft. They have been desperately trying to do that."
I agree. How about we do some executive cuts at Mozilla then? $2.4 million for the top exec over there, maybe to $300K or so which is closer to average for a nonprofit, would be a free $2 million per year. It's not like those executives have been successful in any way to merit that cash.
I'm just stuck with that, I want Firefox to succeed, but the leadership has real problems. And they need cash flow, but side projects aren't doing it, so double-down already on your success and try to claw back slowly - don't flee from what's working.
Maybe even Fight Dirty. I have never figured out why Firefox doesn't pretend to be Chrome on Google websites or try to hide the "Download Chrome" or "Unsupported Browser" popups. Microsoft doesn't care in their quest, Firefox shouldn't either.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#49When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job? They've managed to lose almost all their market popularity, mobile Firefox share is almost nonexistent, they pay their executives extremely disproportionately compared to most nonprofits, they have expanded into countless failed side projects (Firefox OS, Firefox Send) and vestigial side projects they aren't good at (Pocket, Firefox Focus, Firefox Rea…
> When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job?
When we can and will do better.
FWIW, I heard Mozilla is offering full refunds to everyone that purchased Lockwise, which is way better than you'd get from any for-profit company.
Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their messaging was pretty poor here imo. The email they sent me gave no clear indication that Firefox would have this ability in it's body.
Ditto. I came to HN after seeing the email, looking for the best way to migrate my passwords out of Lockwise. Well, still looking. They are outta here.
Keepass + your choice of file sync. Keepass's database has file-based locking so it's safe to sync just via filesystem.
I like KeepassXC one Android and MacOS; Keepassium free-tier on iOS works great. On Android you can use syncthing, but syncthing doesn't work on iOS, so I use NextCloud to sync everything now.