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Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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post #23

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I think vim is the retro part...

Sorry, I was just joking :-) I find funny that they label modal editing, or vim compatibility, or whatever they want to achieve as a retro thing.

Well, it is retro for 99% of the population and fashion is a mass market thing.

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

#43

I'd rather stick to Neovim with support for LSP (language server protocol) and DAP (debug adapter protocol). See a demo here: https://youtu.be/CcgO_CV3iDo

I agree with this. This is my setup.

However, I like tinkering with my dev environment quite a lot to make it exactly how I want it. I imagine the target market of Onivim is those users who don't want to tinker quite as much.

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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I'd rather stick to Neovim with support for LSP (language server protocol) and DAP (debug adapter protocol). See a demo here: https://youtu.be/CcgO_CV3iDo

One good thing about about Neovim is that it forces vim to keep up. I don't really stay up to date, but I think Vim 8 was mostly updates to keep on par with Neovim.

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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post #19

I can't view their patreon without creating a user, but I am curious about what their pricing is and I assume it is listed there. Anyone got the inside scoop?

Something weird is going on. They used to also sell licenses on the website, but it disappeared. Now they have a sold out $5 tier on Patreon, unless you visit the site's direct link? It's just odd. e: Status update from project lead as of 2021-09-01: https://github.com/onivim/oni2/issues/3811#issuecomment-9103... .

> Some things I've been thinking about:

> I'd like to re-license the source code to MIT. This will happen soon (ie, for 0.5.8). It'd be great to make it easier to contribute the project, and I know the current license is a potential blocker. I'll need development help more now than ever. > I plan on turning off Patreon shortly - I can't justify keeping it active if I'm not able to work full-time. (I plan on doing something similar to when I transitioned from Onivim v1 -> Onivim v2 - convert all current patrons to a lifetime license).

So that's why you can't buy a license anymore ? I had been hesitating for a long time, the only thing I'd want from onivim is an easy to use debugger for php/node like the on vscode has. With easy to move into variables and inspect content with the mouse, stopping the debugger, etc.

Every time I tried that with vim or neovim I can't get over the buffer management and keyboard navigation thing and generally get a lot of errors. I usually manage to see the value of a variable and then it all crumbles down in error messages. Probably pebcak but still :/.

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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post #44

I'd rather stick to Neovim with support for LSP (language server protocol) and DAP (debug adapter protocol). See a demo here: https://youtu.be/CcgO_CV3iDo

One good thing about about Neovim is that it forces vim to keep up. I don't really stay up to date, but I think Vim 8 was mostly updates to keep on par with Neovim.

It's a bit more friendly than that (according to TJ DeVries from the Neovim team). It's more like both teams bouncing ideas off of one another and inspiring each other. And that can result in one release or another just looking like implementing features from the other project.

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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post #25

Looks like the last release was in April? It's something I'd be interested in paying for, but only if it's being actively developed?

The project is acively developed, you can have a look at its repository: https://github.com/onivim/oni2/ I think they are doing quite a good job, the editor is blazing fast and you can already use almost seamlessly many VScode plugins. It is clearly still a developer preview, with a number of rough edges, but the devs are very reactive on the issues and on the discord channel. I bought it in the very early days to su…

Does it support Live Share?

Re: Onivim 2 – A retro-futuristic modal editor

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think vim is the retro part...

Sorry, I was just joking :-) I find funny that they label modal editing, or vim compatibility, or whatever they want to achieve as a retro thing.

I think they're trying to be a bit too clever, with vim being the retro part and "futuristic" being used to signify contemporary/modern/IDE-ish.

Not really how retrofuturism actually works, as that would imply that a part of the editor would be how people in the past imagined the future to be. Which would be an interesting concept, but I'm not aware of any kind of editing interface like that. Too menial for pop culture. Retro-futuristic image manipulation would be in Blade Runner, but text editing?

Maybe the Tron 2 quasi-Emacs ;)

https://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/

https://github.com/GitSquared/edex-ui

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