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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#41

Post by deaddodo »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #10
rmbyrro wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use a mail forwarder service in the US and ship anywhere instead of waiting?

In Europe, I get 2 years of warranty in stuff that I buy here regularly. (Not sure how the terms translate, and there are more details, roughly: 1 year is a warranty where the supplier has to prove that the defect is not their fault, second year it is the other way round. In practice, if stuff breaks in the first 2 years that is no obviously the user mishandling the device, you get a free repair.)

This is generally the same in the US. If a product is not sold "as-is", it falls under the Federal Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act; which enforces any warranty claims made by the manufacturer. In addition, there are multiple state level legislative actions that enforce consumer protections. For this reason a minimum one-year full warranty (manufacturer repairs or replaces the item, in good faith) on new goods is the standard, followed by an additional year or two of limited warranty (if you can prove it broke at no fault of your own, they offer a repair or replacement process).

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#43

Post by tylerscott »

I am currently using the DIY version running Ubuntu.

I absolutely love this laptop. It had been awhile since I built a computer (let alone a laptop). The DIY kit instructions and the construction of the machine itself are very well thought out.

I am very excited for a future where we can measure the lifespan of our personal electronics in decades rather than months.

Congrats to the Framework team!

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#44

Post by gtirloni »

filereaper wrote: post #37

I see the founder @nrp replying to a few comments here. @nrp, can you comment on upcoming models? Would love to have a 15" or 17" model with the same swappable ports but with a beefier processor and much larger memory capacities. The larger frames might allow for more ports, but I'm not sure if you're limited by the number of PCIe lanes on these processors. I think a Ryzen offering would also be welcomed. Lastly than…

Do you need more than 64GB of memory?

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#45

Post by tylerscott »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #39

Anyone have one? I'm used to Apple displays and Apple track pads. How do Framework laptops compare? How is the keyboard?

I do and I also own a number of MacBooks.

The trackpad is solid but not quite to the level of an Apple product, at least when I'm running Ubuntu. I imagine as drivers improve over time it will only get better.

I personally dig the display but I am not doing anything graphics intensive so YMMV. The aspect ratio is great for editing text files, though!

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#46

Post by shp0ngle »

deaddodo wrote: post #41
turbinerneiter wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Europe, I get 2 years of warranty in stuff that I buy here regularly. (Not sure how the terms translate, and there are more details, roughly: 1 year is a warranty where the supplier has to prove that the defect is not their fault, second year it is the other way round. In practice, if stuff breaks in the first 2 years that is no obviously the user mishandling the device, you get a free repair.)

This is generally the same in the US. If a product is not sold "as-is", it falls under the Federal Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act; which enforces any warranty claims made by the manufacturer. In addition, there are multiple state level legislative actions that enforce consumer protections. For this reason a minimum one-year full warranty (manufacturer repairs or replaces the item, in good faith) on new goods is the stand…

yeah but how are you going to do it when you use a forwarder?

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#47

Post by guerby »

nrp wrote: post #13
lyptt wrote: post #3

Hopefully they ship outside of the US at some point.

In the works! We're setting up the infrastructure now to be able to ship and provide support outside the US and Canada. The hardware itself is certified for most markets.

Can't wait to order a frame.work laptop from France :)

It will replace my 5 years old Dell Latitude E7480 (extended with third party 32G RAM and 1 TB nvme).

And my colleagues in the IT department are also interested, like ifixit it reminds them of 2012 era macbook.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#48

Post by bastardoperator »

lostapathy wrote: post #21
ducktective wrote: post #2

I hope they succeed in this business model. In this day and age that companies and government want more and more control over our machines, we should prefer these transparent products even if it performs slightly worse than state-of-the-art. If you're wondering about NixOS experience on Framework laptop, there is this blog post I've recently read: https://grahamc.com/blog/nixos-on-framework

I desperately want this to succeed as well. Enough that I've got a preorder that's supposed to ship this week. I'm willing to take the gamble. Sometimes you have to help fund the change you want to see in the world.

I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#49

Post by bityard »

dheera wrote: post #35
lostapathy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they have Newegg's purchasing power, at this juncture, and their prices really aren't unreasonable like they would be if you upgrade a Dell or Apple.

Oh sure but they could charge Newegg's price and just order from Newegg? I just feel like if I'm going to order any sort of "bundle" of items I should be getting a discount. Fundamental axiom of sales: price([A, B])

If you owned a business, which parts of it would you do for free?
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