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Re: iOS 15 Humane

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post #28

Meanwhile, today Microsoft gifted us a brand new "News & interests" area in the taskbar lobbying for our focus and attention. Successfully... I even had to google how to turn it off, and write this comment.

Yes, I like that I've paid for an operating system that tells me all the affairs someone is having right in my system tray.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#42

Such a complicated solution. Here's a much simpler one: Stop using Facebook. Problem solved.

In the same way that an alcoholic can just stop drinking and then they're no longer an alcoholic, right? That's not how addiction works.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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post #28

Meanwhile, today Microsoft gifted us a brand new "News & interests" area in the taskbar lobbying for our focus and attention. Successfully... I even had to google how to turn it off, and write this comment.

Also had to do the same. The method of disabling it, while not immediately obvious, didn't seem intentionally user-hostile. However, the idea of modifying any part of a user's desktop without their explicit input is troubling to say the least.

Microsoft's recent history with 'forced UI additions' of this sort would imply it is indeed intentionally user-hostile.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#45

Such a complicated solution. Here's a much simpler one: Stop using Facebook. Problem solved.

In the same way that an alcoholic can just stop drinking and then they're no longer an alcoholic, right? That's not how addiction works.

Habitual addiction and chemical addiction are not the same things. Cutting Facebook cold turkey has few if any of the side effects cutting alcohol cold turkey has.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#46

Such a complicated solution. Here's a much simpler one: Stop using Facebook. Problem solved.

In the same way that an alcoholic can just stop drinking and then they're no longer an alcoholic, right? That's not how addiction works.

Do alcoholics overcome addiction with “Time well spent” metrics?

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#47
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Infinite scroll is not a dark pattern. Dark patterns are explicitly designed to conflate or deceive. Infinite scroll just gives people more of what they want. Turns out, most people, most of the time, want the gorbage.

> Dark patterns are explicitly designed to conflate or deceive. Well, yes - normally you are scrolling to the bottom of the page. And when you reach the bottom, you stop, or you need to explicitly click "Next". But with infinite scroll, there is no bottom. You never reach a final or semi-final point. It's designed to maximize your time spent on the website/app, not for your well-being or helping you achieve your orig…

But it's only a dark pattern in the right (wrong?) context, no? For instance, my webmail has infinite scroll and it's damn convenient. Yet, I never find myself mindlessly scrolling through my mail. It doesn't increase the time I spend on the site... quite the opposite.

Likewise, I swear Google was playing with infinite scroll in their search results recently, where I didn't have to hit next to see the next page of results. Same result for me - it was convenient and I didn't find myself spending more time looking for/at search results.

But when the context is addictive content, infinite scroll is always there to spoon feed you one more helping.

More often than not, infinite scroll isn't actually the UX pattern you're looking for. But on occasion, it does make sense. However, when combined with insidious content, a dark pattern it does become.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#48

Things like infinite scroll and autoplay should come with an option to turn them off and I think that’s well presented. Those are kind of dark patterns after All. Though, Apple probably isn’t in the position to enforce that; we unfortunately need to live with Jailbreak tweaks for them. But the rest of the post feels so off. Constantly nagging yourself to close social media? Reminding yourself that social media is a w…

> Those are kind of dark patterns after Al

I think the application should be judged, not the method necessarily.

Example : I have added/used extensions built to allow certain websites (google search, for example) to use infinite scrolling.

I never voluntarily added other 'dark patterns' to my interfaces, thus I think the way such a mechanism is applied is a major factor as to whether or not it's abusive.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#49
Even though this article is sarcastic(?) I can't help but get genuinely angry at these trillion dollar companies thinking they know what is better for us and trying to control and police everything. This is even worse than govt censoring porn and cuss-words back in the day thinking they know what is moral for the society.

I was just talking to a friend the other day on how badly Apple and Google are trying their best to kill curiosity and creativity. I mean when I first got my 286 the machine was just full of possibilities. I think learning the ins and outs of it was more fun than doing anything productive.

I used to hack away at it all day and night. Learning about interrupts, tinkering with the BIOS settings, hacking the serial port, irq, etc. Now everything is just locked down. In my latest phone I can't even run `fastboot` as that too has been locked down permanently because "security".

Thank god we have Linux created before all this Bullshit started happening. If Apple, Google and Microsoft was in charge of things as they are now, we wouldn't even have any hardware to run anything else than Windows and iOS.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

#50
How about just making network access for apps opt-in rather than opt-out, and further more also making background network access a permission request, and something that can be monitored.
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