The writing on the wall has been clear for years... China won't play nice. It's far past time Apple and every other serious tech player gets the heck out of China.
TikTok wants to keep tracking iPhone users with state-backed workaround
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#42"Three people with knowledge of briefings between Apple and developers also said the Cupertino, California-based company would be wary of taking strong action, despite a clear violation of its stated rules, if CAID has the support of China’s tech giants as well as its government agencies." That's chilling. I tend to have a good opinion of Apple regarding privacy protection, even though I'm not an Apple user, but if e…
This hasn’t played out yet. I’m curious who put this into multiple news streams this week. Apple doesn’t want to unilaterally block TikTok for using a state-backed solution. But if Washington requires it to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
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#43The writing on the wall has been clear for years. Apple and every other tech company that cares at all about privacy (should be any tech company) needs to get the heck out of China... We desperately need supply chain diversity.
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#44As much as I like Apple products, it looks like the privacy buck stops at China. The western world needs to desperately work on making their supply chains independent of the CCP, lest they'd like their supply chains to be poisoned at some point in the future. I'm a big fan of Purism and everything that they are doing. I hope their software and hardware matures with the same level of polish we've come to know and expe…
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Re: TikTok wants to keep tracking iPhone users with state-backed workaround
#45As much as I like Apple products, it looks like the privacy buck stops at China. The western world needs to desperately work on making their supply chains independent of the CCP, lest they'd like their supply chains to be poisoned at some point in the future. I'm a big fan of Purism and everything that they are doing. I hope their software and hardware matures with the same level of polish we've come to know and expe…
> The western world needs to desperately work on making their supply chains independent of the CCP
The western world can't. The world is only so big and the remaining sites of refuge for cheap, exploitable labor and Potemkin regulatory regimes are few. Almost any alternative place you might cite is either already beholden to China (the viable parts of Africa) or too unstable (due to endemic corruption, external threats, etc.) to risk.
Insourcing is obviously out of the question; the wealthy Western establishment is violently intolerant of industrial expansion.
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#46So basically TikTok is saying "please take us off the app store" except the hard way. Apple still hasn't budged on Epic trying to get rid of their cut on all Fortnite Fun-Buxxx sales through iOS, what makes TikTok think announcing they are going to blatantly violate the spirit, and possibly the letter, of Apple's no-tracking rules isn't gonna result in their app getting pulled? I guess maybe they're hoping for a deci…
Well, having serious support in China (including from the CCCP) is one way. Epic wouldn’t matter here since China is an extremely important market for Apple.
not just an important market, an integral part of their supply chain. Without China, Apple wouldn't be able to make a single product as it stands today. China has all the power in that relationship.
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#47"Three people with knowledge of briefings between Apple and developers also said the Cupertino, California-based company would be wary of taking strong action, despite a clear violation of its stated rules, if CAID has the support of China’s tech giants as well as its government agencies." That's chilling. I tend to have a good opinion of Apple regarding privacy protection, even though I'm not an Apple user, but if e…
>I tend to have a good opinion of Apple regarding privacy protection
The Apple privacy push is for Apple protecting your data from 3d parties. Apple still collects plenty of information by itself.
From a consumer standpoint, there should be no difference if you care about privacy.
If you really want control over your data, you need a rooted Android phone running a custom rom with no Google apps, and use something like Firefox Focus for web interfaces to all the apps that you use.
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#48China is my hero! Go China! Why have Just Apple tracking us?
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#49Technically, what's going on here? "CAID" isn't a public iOS technology, and the article doesn't say what it means. Some googling returns: https://mmachina.cn/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/MMA%E4%B8%AD%... Apparently it means "CAA Advertising Id", where "CAA" appears to be the "Creative Artists Agency", some sort of Chinese advertising group. (edit: wrong organization, it's actually "Chinese Anonymization ID", not a gro…
From what I understand, this CAID will be an effective replacement of Apple's IDFA. It will allow partner advertising groups to tag iPhone users directly without relying on any of Apple's identifiers.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's about 85.3 billion reasons a year for them to not stand up to the CCP and in the end Apple's interest in privacy is mostly a tool to differentiate its offerings from the competition so they can sell people stuff.
It's a $2.2 trillion dollar company with $200 billion in cash. They can easily afford to do the right thing. If they offered a private device and said to all governments "take it or leave it" then those governments would answer only to their people if they banned the device. Of course, name one public corporation that would leave a little cash on the table, ever, to do the right thing.
I think China has some extra leverage to deploy here: China can respond "We leave it. Oh, one more thing: our domestic market is off limits to you. Pray we don't alter the deal further by kicking your manufacturing out too."