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The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

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Re: The Words "Facebook" And "Twitter" Are Banned From French Airwaves

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How about the word verb "to google" ? Shouldn't this be forbidden too, according to the french reasoning? Or do they not use it at all?

That was exactly what I came here to write. I understand the spirit of this law, that using facebook and twitter is using a public good for advertising outside of the context of an ad. But some of these brands have a tendency to become words in there own right, and like kleenex or google, the word becomes synonymous with the brands' function. I believe Webster has included "Google" as a verb now. It'd be interesting…

I don't think there a is a verb in French. We're stuck to 'search on google'('chercher sur Google'), mostly (I think) because the verb wouldn't sound nice. I'm not sure I've ever heard it in the media, but I never really paid attention in the first place.

What struck me, though, is that people, in the news, or in other ads (banks, etc) tend to say "We have a phone application" when they only provide an iphone app. Might be somehow related.

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Wow, this is absurd! The French official said “This would be a distortion of competition. If we allow Facebook and Twitter to be cited on air, it’s opening a Pandora’s Box —other social networks will complain to us saying, ‘why not us?’” Nobody is saying those other networks can't be mentioned. Maybe if they would improve, they /would/ be used and get mentioned. Does my service have a right to be promoted? No? Clearl…

You're taking the problem from the wrong side. It had always been forbidden to advertise anything owned by a private company except in some news directly related to it. "Iran is revolting on Twitter" is relevant. "DSK did epic shit in a hotel, follow the news on twitter" is irrelevant. It sounds like a national channel advising to buy newspaper X every time to get more informations about the story. While I personally…

By public channels do you mean Free-To-Air or do you mean that they recieve public funding? If the latter, I believe the restrictions are more reasonable.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was exactly what I came here to write. I understand the spirit of this law, that using facebook and twitter is using a public good for advertising outside of the context of an ad. But some of these brands have a tendency to become words in there own right, and like kleenex or google, the word becomes synonymous with the brands' function. I believe Webster has included "Google" as a verb now. It'd be interesting…

I don't think there a is a verb in French. We're stuck to 'search on google'('chercher sur Google'), mostly (I think) because the verb wouldn't sound nice. I'm not sure I've ever heard it in the media, but I never really paid attention in the first place. What struck me, though, is that people, in the news, or in other ads (banks, etc) tend to say "We have a phone application" when they only provide an iphone app. Mi…

Oh, thank you.

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The OP speaks about French resentment of Anglo-Saxon cultural encroachment as if it's some kind of childish French fixation ("That there is a deeply-rooted animosity in the French psyche towards Anglo-Saxon cultural domination cannot be disputed; indeed, it has been documented and analysed for decades.") But then, remember Freedom Fries and cheese-eating Surrender Monkeys, and it seems like we all have our childish s…

This ban has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of resentment of Anglo-Saxon culture (though such a resentment does definitely exist). In France citing the name of a commercial entity when it's not relevant to the news/show is considered unfair advertisement. So it's banned, unless you name all competitors of the field. It's very common when watching a live TV show to have the interviewer remind the interviewee t…

Thanks for the info. This thread got sidetracked.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would also note that in the US, every mention of fuck or other obscene word is beeped when put on air. How is it that different...? It's very different. Bleeping expletives is a result of (idiotic) anti-obscenity laws. Banning talk of Facebook or Twitter is (officially, anyway) about not advertising commercial entities on news outlets, and some misguided notion of "fairness" between various social networking servic…

But the article is about the over-regulation in France - in that aspect, you have the same idea of banning some language. The reason why is different, but the idea of controlling language itself is not specific to France.

We're agreeing, actually. This is exactly the point I was trying to make. Yes, it's the same idea in the sense that specific words/language is banned. But the reasoning behind it is very different, and that's what matters. I don't agree with banning words like "fuck" from American airwaves, but I'm somewhat ok with it because it's done because collectively the people don't like them. France's ban on "Facebook" and "Twitter" is for weakly-supported economic "fairness" reasons.
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