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Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by alexandrvicente »

drummer wrote: post #28
ghthor wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a conspiracy theory that people are hurt by vaccines. That's a fact. The question is, are people hurt more by the vaccine or the disease itself. From the evidence I've researched, I think it's the vaccines that are more dangerous.

Yep, my own research also shows that vaccines are dangerous in various ways. Also the power of big pharma and big tech when it comes to money and censorship.

I don’t think we’d be seeing new measles outbreaks if big tech and big pharma were that effective at censoring anti-vaxxers.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by oldgregg »

tialaramex wrote: post #35
miked85 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want a search engine removing whatever they deem a "conspiracy theory" or "misinformation". I can decide on my own.

> I can decide on my own What tests have you done to confirm that you're actually any good at this? Or is the idea that you'd actively prefer to have your life ruined by misinformation than admit you might not have the best ability to distinguish - like the way some people would prefer to be crippled or maimed than accept safety protection on dangerous machinery because they find it emasculating?

What makes you think a multinational corporation would be any better? They are at the mercy of regulators and will always bow to political pressure rather than the truth.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by textgel »

mschuster91 wrote: post #24
textgel wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people are fine with making decisions for themselves and don't need a net nanny to say "mummy thinks you shouldn't be reading this".

Vast parts of the population however are not , as evidenced by the results of the last election or the support rates of stuff like qanon. Please keep in mind that qanon, antivaxx etc. are active hostile infowars campaigns. It is a duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts.

With all due respect your comment history outlines you as a progressive and the first line you have on your profile is "You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa".".

Among the many aspects of your faith that I disagree with, one of the most utilised by its followers is its enthusiastic advocacy of false accusations against heretics in the pursuit of attacking them. And so while I don't know anything about qanon or infowars, your bad mouthing them is only lending them credibility; it is also shores up my belief that whatever your implicit definition of "duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts" is, I can assure you, we neither need nor want it.

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Post by sgift »

intricatedetail wrote: post #36
criddell wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that essentially saying you don't want your search engine ranking by relevance and quality?

Relevance and quality are subjective.

Of course they are. That's the reason Google "won" in the first place after all. They had a algorithm which better fit what people expected.

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Post by lone-commenter »

smaryjerry wrote: post #21
bko wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree in general. But what if I did want to know if vaccines are dangerous, so I search "are vaccines dangerous". If I want to find an anti-vaccine site, I should be able to do so, but the search term "are vaccines dangerous" should be viewed neutrally, in which case I would find links from cdc or .gov sites to be more useful that anti-vaccines sites

We go to school in the US for usually at least 12 years. Any person should already be educated on topics such as anti vaccination. In particular in my state you can’t even go to school if you haven’t had your vaccines. Not only that but we learn how to learn in school. The argument for censorship against stupidity assumes exactly that, that the majority of people are stupid which they are not.

> The argument for censorship against stupidity assumes exactly that, that the majority of people are stupid which they are not.

It's not censorship against stupidity. It's censorship against bullshitters who spread medical misinformation that may put people in danger; factually untenable opinions, expressed in an assertive manner, in a context which seems authoritative to the layperson.

Nobody says the majority is stupid, nor it is relevant. Protecting a minority is as good an excuse as it is protecting the majority, don't you think?

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by textgel »

intricatedetail wrote: post #38
textgel wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair; I suppose it's inevitable that search engines move more in a similar direction to what we know as the main high street when it comes to high profile searches, keeping more mainstream stuff while losing the off the wall areas but it does seem a shame to loose some of the weirder side streets in the process (the sort of weirdness from the early 2000s internet for example).

It's a bad idea. There are examples where mainstream was wrong. Usually when it's about big money. E.g. decades of anti-cannabis propaganda.

Now you mention it, the official position on the correct response to coronavirus flip flopping and changing from location to location is a good recent example too.

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Post by mschuster91 »

textgel wrote: post #43
mschuster91 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vast parts of the population however are not , as evidenced by the results of the last election or the support rates of stuff like qanon. Please keep in mind that qanon, antivaxx etc. are active hostile infowars campaigns. It is a duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts.

With all due respect your comment history outlines you as a progressive and the first line you have on your profile is "You call it "alt-left", I proudly call it "Antifa".". Among the many aspects of your faith that I disagree with, one of the most utilised by its followers is its enthusiastic advocacy of false accusations against heretics in the pursuit of attacking them. And so while I don't know anything about qan…

> it is also shores up my belief that whatever your implicit definition of "duty of a society to protect its citizens against such efforts" is, I can assure you, we neither need nor want it.

I'm not just an antifascist, I'm German. My ancestors proved for the rest of the world where a worldview based on lies and hate (and qanon is nothing more than that) will lead. Their history is proof that a society must defend itself or it will collapse.

Re: Popular Pirate Sites ‘Disappear’ from DuckDuckGo’s Top Search Results

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Post by abc-xyz »

snarfy wrote: post #2

Since ddg uses bing's api, I wonder if the disappearance on ddg is due to bing censoring.

Most likely. It’s also funny to see TorrentFreak write:

> Unlike DuckDuckGo, Bing notes at the bottom of the page that “some results have been removed.”

The reason DuckDuckGo doesn’t display similar notes is likely because they don’t know any sites have been removed (since Bing’s API doesn’t include this info). Copyright holders have no need to contact DDG and other Bing wrappers, they just need to get Microsoft to remove the websites from their API.

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Post by chuckSu »

miked85 wrote: post #23
bko wrote: post #4

I made an app that lets you compare duck-duck-go results with that of google, side by side [0][1]. One thing I found is how bad ddg is at removing conspiracy theories and other misinformation. Google is, for better or for worse, much more managed. For instance, search "are vaccines dangerous", google replies with .org and .gov sites, while ddg promotes dangersofvaccines.com. Even if you search "dangers of vaccines" i…

I don't want a search engine removing whatever they deem a "conspiracy theory" or "misinformation". I can decide on my own.

I’m a bit double sided about this. Like you I personally wouldn’t want results to be removed because I feel like I’m capable of deciding for myself, but at the same time I feel like the world is filled with more than a few gullible and sometimes straight up dumb asses that might need to be nannied a bit.
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