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The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

-Also, there's a bust of him in the Spreebogen (Berlin-Moabit).

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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> seem to be stuck in the 90's. Not sure if you would like to see newer machines or older ones. If you are complaining about the missing old ones, then it's not true. The Deutsches Museum in Munich as a Z3 and a Z4: https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... It also has a "Siemens 2002" from 1960. https://www.deutsches-museum.de/ausstellungen/kommunikation/... And a UNIVAC I (IBM) from 1956: http…

I think they mean "stuck in the 90s" in the way of presentation and exhibition design, which I'd tend to agree with. They have a lot of cool artifacts, and I can totally see why older relatives raved about it, but to me it felt stuffy and drab compared to other museums when I was there a few years ago.

Exactly. Stuffy and drab is a great way to describe it. I was reminded of my school days a lot when I was there. There is a interactive game in the astronomy section which belongs in a museum for other reasons then it is.

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

You can find an interview with him about IBM Deep Blue here:

https://research.tilburguniversity.edu/en/publications/an-in...

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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It probably has to do with world war 2. It wasn't regular Germany where it was built in. It was in a Germany that was controlled by an insane lunatic.

Zuse is one of the more underappreciated figures in the foundational periods of computer science due to this fact. I find it quite interesting that the fact that he was on the losing side of that war meant that he had to make due with limited resources which positively influenced his design choices and as such shaped his perspectives of what computers can and should be. Neil Gershenfeld at the MIT Center for Bits and…

I suspect that the work that John von Neumann and Turings work as the foundation will be.

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

Many people i know in Berlin know that one of the first mechanical calculators is in the technical museum Berlin, but those people don’t know about concepts like turing-equivalent, so they call it a Computer. Many great inventions have a nationalist folklore surrounding it, often ascribing a development to some national hero, while ignoring the process of development as a whole or parallel developments in other count…

Its an interesting what if to consider what would have happened if Zuze had had the support from the allies post war in the same way that Volkswagon did.

Surprised in away that Zuze wasn't snapped up by operation paperclip.

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

Germans don't care much about those things, because there is so much history everywhere. A small invention like a computer has not much relevance in that environment. Additionally, Zuse was colaborating and supported from the Nazi-Regime, even though he himself was not a Nazi, nor did he directly supported their crimes. But this stain dimished education about his work for a long time.

As was the Volkswagen and much much more directly

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

You can find an interview with him about IBM Deep Blue here: https://research.tilburguniversity.edu/en/publications/an-in...

Thanks for that! He lived long enough to see Windows 95 and the early internet - wonder what he made of all of that.

Re: The long lost manual for the Zuse Z4 has been found

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There's a very lively startup scene in Berlin, but no-one in that scene seems to know that the world's first digital computer was built in Berlin. There's an obscure and easy to miss sign ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse#/media/File:2007-0... ) on the house he lived in while working on it, and another sign at the technical university, but that's about it. No big festivities in his name, no commemorations,…

Well, there's the Zuse Institute Berlin (ZIB) in Berlin, named after him, and quite prominent on the campus of FU Berlin.

Further, there was a conference/show to celebrate Zuse's 100th birthday, organized by the Tagesspiegel newspaper. This event was repeated for the last two years, I think.

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