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Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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I used to be obsessed with trying new note taking apps, but I've been the happiest and most productive using Vim and Markdown on my laptop synced via Syncthing to my phone and editing with Markor. I've used Vim for as long as I could program, so I am embarrassed that it took me so long to set this up (a few months ago) but I finally don't care about note taking apps. Edit: sometimes I print my notes and for that I us…

what do you use for syntax highlighting? I have tried a few options but can't quite get what I need. I like url hiding (or is it called folding?) that VimWiki does for md files, but I hate that VimWiki's does not really follow the md standard

Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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And yet, we expect games to be at this price or lower with the same hard constraints and I would argue they take even more work. That's just the economy of scale. I also think that anything beyond $10 is too pricey. Monthly plan? No way.

In other words, we expect "others" to pay for us through economies of scale. This might work for top-tier video games, but it definitely does not work for niche software.

Exactly. If you are developing a product you have to make sure that it reaches a sufficient number of people that would pay a certain amount. Number of customers times the price and you get your expected income. If that is too low then don't spend your time on it cause you'll just be losing money.

Consider, if your argument is taken to its absurd extreme, then you would have to pay for full development of any software you use by yourself. Just running Windows or MacOS would cost you millions if not billions of dollars.

Edit, addendum: you can also view it that the money needed for development is then covered distributedly among the customers. Nobody is expecting others to pay for them but the expense is too big for a few customers to cover it (at least for this type of software).

Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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One time only: Yes. Recurring monthly: NEVER. There are bazillion apps out there, mostly free or comes with free tier. Unless this is $9.99 or lower, I would never consider. Just my opinion.

> Recurring monthly: NEVER. [...] Unless this is $9.99 or lower, I would never consider. And yet, you likely expect regular updates when the OS is updated, a constant stream of bug fixes, and (probably) some improvements. In other words, you expect regular development for a one-time fee of $9.99 or lower. $9.99 is the cost of about 5 minutes of a skilled programmer's time. This is not realistic and definitely not sus…

How much should a note taking app cost? $5 a month? No. Barely $1 a month maybe. I am willing to pay 1 year subscription fee up front.

We have free note apps, asana, microsoft onenote, google keep, evernote, heck I am using the default apps that comes with my phone, or even on windows notepad itself.

How much is a niche note taking app worth to you? To me, one time if super premium and bugfree, I can sacrifice $9 which is way above the apps on the market. Premium camera apps are $4-5 and they are packed with very nice tools. KyPass was $6.99 which is a lifesaver. Strava is free, some sysadmin tools I use are ranging from $2-5 on my phone.

I just can't imagine paying monthly subscription fee for note taking app, even if it comes with task management etc.

Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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I used to be obsessed with trying new note taking apps, but I've been the happiest and most productive using Vim and Markdown on my laptop synced via Syncthing to my phone and editing with Markor. I've used Vim for as long as I could program, so I am embarrassed that it took me so long to set this up (a few months ago) but I finally don't care about note taking apps. Edit: sometimes I print my notes and for that I us…

My problem with a text file is how clunky it is to include images.

Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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For what it’s worth (and maybe I’m just dumb). It took me a lot of scrolling to realize they weren’t selling hardware.

That's funny because my first thought was almost the opposite, that they are offering a new open source HTML template for ebooks.

Re: Clover: An all-in-one notebook

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I used to be obsessed with trying new note taking apps, but I've been the happiest and most productive using Vim and Markdown on my laptop synced via Syncthing to my phone and editing with Markor. I've used Vim for as long as I could program, so I am embarrassed that it took me so long to set this up (a few months ago) but I finally don't care about note taking apps. Edit: sometimes I print my notes and for that I us…

Me to, then I just stopped. The enabling moment came when I found a free app that backs up Apple Notes in a portable format. I use the iCloud.com web app on my Linux laptops to access notes, and on my copious Apple devices, the Notes app is easy to use.

Some sad history: I spent years carefully making notes and organizing material in Evernote but realized that I spent much more time curating material than ever using it.

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