It sounds like Nubank might have the biggest Datomic installation in the world (2000 servers). This is exciting news for people like me who think Datomic is the most interesting database out there. Putting more resources behind Datomic might finally allow it to go mainstream.
Nubank acquires Cognitect
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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#42Did anyone else notice that the biggest non-academic supporters of functional programming seem to be financial institutions? Is it due to the nature of the problem space? Is it because finance people tend to be more analytical? Something else?
I would assume it's because it's easier to provide a mathemathical proof for the code with functionnal programming.
Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
All Datomic consulting will continue.
It says this in your post. Cognitect will continue to offer professional services for Datomic customers, but will transition out of general consulting development. Does this mean your general consulting services are going away?
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Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#44what does this mean for the future of clojure? I am a bit worried that a startup has acquired two companies that have extremely deep experience in specialised languages Platformatec (Elixir) and now Clojure (Cognitect)
What would somewhat worry me somewhat is what the situation would be if Nubank went pop, and Cognitect were no longer in a position to step back in as sponsors.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also lets hope they acquire cursive ide too and offer it for free. Clojure deserves an IDE for larger adoption.
Clojure has many free IDEs. Many people currently use Emacs w/CIDER, Atom w/Chlorine, Visual Studio w/Calva, Vim w/Fireplace, etc. For that matter, Cursive also has a free non-commercial edition.
Thanks Alex.
Wishing you and your team many congratulations and kudos on this occasion.
Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#46Throwaway account, for obvious reasons. This is great for nubank, but how is this supposed to work for other users of Clojure and Datomic? Who is really going to be interested in building on top of tech owned by a (new, unknown, regional) bank? Someone said that this is just like Amazon (who would build on top of tech from a bookstore??), but I hope it's obvious the two situations are very different. I expect that I'…
Per https://building.nubank.com.br/welcoming-cognitect-nubank/ , "Nubank does not own Clojure, just as Cognitect never owned Clojure. Nubank will take over Cognitect’s role as a corporate sponsor for Clojure, funding the core development effort".
Outside of the license, OF COURSE Relevance, then Cognitect, now nubank owns clojure, in every other way that matters.
Now do datomic :-)
Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#47Will the license change?
No change in Clojure's license (it is still EPL 1.0).
Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#48Wonder if this makes datomic more likely to become free/open source Not sure what their license revenue is but hard to imagine it would be significant to a major fintech
Also lets hope they acquire cursive ide too and offer it for free. Clojure deserves an IDE for larger adoption.
There's a free non-commercial license. If that's not enough, wouldn't they have to acquire IntelliJ too since they have a similar licensing model?
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#49Will the license change?
No. It's just a "cooperation" to use technologies.
Re: Nubank acquires Cognitect
#50Did anyone else notice that the biggest non-academic supporters of functional programming seem to be financial institutions? Is it due to the nature of the problem space? Is it because finance people tend to be more analytical? Something else?
Immutability is a very powerful idea when record keeping and dealing with transactions. I know of at least one major bank whose ledgers are written Haskell.