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Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Suppose someone is found liable in civil court for deep linking to a website that prohibits it. What kind of damages could the website possibly be entitled to collect? I'm at a loss.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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well a google of "cheap flight dublin london" Ryanair comes up third. Which implies they must get a fair amount of traffic from search engines

Dear cavedave, this is an official notice to remind you that "You may not establish and/or operate links to this website without the prior written consent of Ryanair" as per the Terms & Conditions. In your blog post, you have linked ryanair.com in the sentence containing: 3. You go to their terms and conditions here and see they do not allow linking to their website Please kindly unlink or be prepared for further leg…

Oh god that is head meltingly genius. Could you post that to the blog? Well played sir

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

Because circumventing that filter is even easier than installing the filter in the first place?

Circumventing that filter is easy for the user, but I don't see how it's easy for the referring website.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Ryanair have such a well known airline brand that it's unlikely they are relying on organic search results.

He's just using Ryanair as a general example. Maybe it wouldn't really hurt them, but it could have an effect on other companies with this dumb policy.

Oh yes. But any business relying on organic search and having an idiotic linking rules deserves to die.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Ryanair have such a well known airline brand that it's unlikely they are relying on organic search results.

A lot of non-tech people don't type any URL, they just type "Ryanair" in Google and click on the first link.

True. But even with very few links, I suspect ryanair.com would come up high for a search for "ryanair". They get a bonus for an exact domain match. So no matter what they will probably come up high for searches for "Ryanair"

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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The perverse thing about terms forbidding deep linking into a website is that it is so easy to prevent deep linking by technical means. (In fact, it's so easy that even mentioning it seems like a cliche.) On each HTTP request, examine the Referer: header and, if you don't like it, redirect to your homepage. Is there any reason why companies like Ryanair don't just do this?

Because circumventing that filter is even easier than installing the filter in the first place?

It's not easy for the general ryanair customer. The average person doesn't know what a referrer header is.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Why do companies even have this clause in their T&C? What's the benefit?

Probably to stop online 'price compare' or 'find a bargain' website. Ryanair want people to buy via their site so they can upsell.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Because circumventing that filter is even easier than installing the filter in the first place?

Circumventing that filter is easy for the user, but I don't see how it's easy for the referring website.

A referrer is not sent when following a link from a secure website (https) to a non-secure website.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-15.1.3

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Circumventing that filter is easy for the user, but I don't see how it's easy for the referring website.

A referrer is not sent when following a link from a secure website (https) to a non-secure website. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-15.1.3

I would assume that the filter would be implemented to deny/redirect the request if there were no referrer at all.

Re: How to hide Ryanair

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Please excuse my ignorance if these guys are now owned by Ryanair, a quick Google suggests they are not, but it looks like Jetbird (an executive jet company) did a straight copy and paste of this for term 2.v.

"(v) You may not establish and/or operate links to this website without the prior written consent of Ryanair. Such consent may be withdrawn at any time at JetBird own discretion."

http://www.flyjetbird.com/en/fns/Terms-of-Use.aspx

I wonder if Ryanair knows one of their competitors are using their T&C's. On the other hand, I wonder if Jetbird know they are listing one of their competitors on their website.

Very amusing to see this! Makes you wonder how many companies Ctrl+C Ctrl+V their T&C's and Privacy Policies from other websites.

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